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May 20, 2008
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#2
Unreal? or maybe perhaps a well known mating puzzle know as the "smothered mate"? hmm...you decided! I love showing this mate to friends who do not play chess as a puzzle. They always get a kick out of it! =)
great...thanks for sharing
Michael_Sarmiento wrote: great...thanks for sharing
your welcome
May 20, 2008
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#5
Nice puzzle, really a cute mate!
The only thing that bothered me is that both Qe6+ and Qc4+ also result in the desired check. This caused me quite some frustration until I realised I hadn't tried Qd5+. As there is no valid reason for calling Qc4+ and Qe6+ 'wrong', I think they should be correct too!
RC_Woods wrote:
Nice puzzle, really a cute mate!
The only thing that bothered me is that both Qe6+ and Qc4+ also result in the desired check. This caused me quite some frustration until I realised I hadn't tried Qd5+. As there is no valid reason for calling Qc4+ and Qe6+ 'wrong', I think they should be correct too!
true, I didn t know you could add multiple valid moves.
3.Nd8+ also forces mate in five.
Lucena's position had the same flaw when he published this mate 500 years ago.
~TO
TonightOnly wrote:
3.Nd8+ also forces mate in five.
Lucena's position had the same flaw when he published this mate 500 years ago.
~TO
The queen on Qg8 simply would have been taken by the king, because the Knight does not provide cover...
May 20, 2008
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#9
I think TOs point is this line: Qe6+ Kh8 Nf7+ Kg8 Nd8+ Kh8 Qe8+ Qf8 Qxf8#
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote: I think TOs point is this line: Qe6+ Kh8 Nf7+ Kg8 Nd8+ Kh8 Qe8+ Qf8 Qxf8#
interesting alternative solution, although 'my' solution is looks more spectacular. But you are right
Riemens wrote: ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote: I think TOs point is this line: Qe6+ Kh8 Nf7+ Kg8 Nd8+ Kh8 Qe8+ Qf8 Qxf8#
interesting alternative solution, although 'my' solution is looks more spectacular. But you are right
Yes, Ozzie is right. Sorry about the confusion, but I hadn't even played out your puzzle, and just assumed your puzzle's solution was 1.Qe6+. So, your puzzle has at least three alternative solutions that force mate in five. In my opinion, this makes it a mediocre puzzle. There are very many puzzles demonstrating this mate, and many do not have these flaws.
So, sorry to pass judgement on what you find spectacular, but it is just another smothered mate puzzle... with alternate solutions.
Philidor's Mate
Example #589,244,055,294,684,223,786,600,583,572,567
silentfilmstar13 wrote:
Philidor's Mate
Example #589,244,055,294,684,223,786,600,583,572,567
I counted them up, and you are just off. You missed a couple in the pointless 'chess organizers' forum.
This is example # 589,244,055,294,684,223,786,600,583,572,569
This mate is TOTALLY UNREAL!!
lol... nice puzzle... if white didn't check the black king,black would have won...
To avoid multiple solutions (three cheks in the first move, and 3. Nd8 with a mate too), in the start position remove white queen f.e. on h4. Then 1. Qc4+ and then a smothered mate is only solution!
TonightOnly wrote: silentfilmstar13 wrote:
Philidor's Mate
Example #589,244,055,294,684,223,786,600,583,572,567
I counted them up, and you are just off. You missed a couple in the pointless 'chess organizers' forum.
This is example # 589,244,055,294,684,223,786,600,583,572,569
Haha. Going by the popularity of this theme in puzzles, one would think that every third game ends in Philidor's mate. In reality, I've never played it, nor has it been played against me.
This is my first puzzle, I hope you like it. As you can see, black has two options for a checkmate and is only one move away from it.