Endgame Draw

  • #1

    From a 5min blitz game I played in school, very easy puzzle. It is amazing that this is a draw with so much material from black.

  • #2

    he realized he couldn't make progress and offered a draw.

  • #3

    Did you accept? It says a draw was the result, but you could clearly win that one.

    ADK

  • #4
    tonydal wrote:

    He shouldn't have.  It's a win (check it out on the Nalimov tablebase).


    Yeah, I know it's not a draw because White still has a moveable Bishop and there is absolutely NO way he could win so why would he accept the draw?

    ADK

  • #5

    @komoliddin07,

    6. Kh1 draws, why not?

  • #6

    it is stikl.l a draw

  • #7

    thats some of the worst analysis...

    you have to play the best moves for both sides, and you have to consider all options

  • #8
  • #9

    still game over for white

  • #10

    The initial position is a win for black.

    I would recommend to:

    * leave the second pawn back on h6. One can advance this pawn to h5, but DO NOT advance this pawn to h4 anytime soon. There are positions which are a draw with rook vs bishop and a pawn on h4.

    * play ...Kg4, ...h2 (Bxh2) and ...Kh3

    * drive the king out of the corner with a maneuver such as

                ...Rh2+,

    Kg1          R_attacks_bishop,

    Bmoves     R_gives_check_on_first_rank.

    this will black allow to make decisive progress and win this endgame.

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    Note that interestingly, there are positions with R+pawn vs bishop which are a draw if the pawn is an a, c, f or h-pawn, if this pawn is too far advanced and if the bishop has "the wrong colour".

  • #11
    ilmago wrote:

    The initial position is a win for black.

    I would recommend to:

    * leave the second pawn back on h6. One can advance this pawn to h5, but DO NOT advance this pawn to h4 anytime soon. There are positions which are a draw with rook vs bishop and a pawn on h4.

    * play ...Kg4, ...h2 (Bxh2) and ...Kh3

    * drive the king out of the corner with a maneuver such as

                ...Rh2+,

    Kg1          R_attacks_bishop,

    Bmoves     R_gives_check_on_first_rank.

    this will black allow to make decisive progress and win this endgame.

    ------

    Note that interestingly, there are positions with R+pawn vs bishop which are a draw if the pawn is an a, c, f or h-pawn, if this pawn is too far advanced and if the bishop has "the wrong colour".


    i will have to aggre with you

  • #12

    Sorry, my first recommendation on how to make progress here gave a continuation that is a somewhat longer way to win than necessary here.

    There is even a winning method with the king still in the corner, which is faster than what I had first been thinking of:

    (It requires quite a bit of subtle maneuvering along the way)

     

  • #13

    here's the winning line

  • #14

    in the real game, black flagged so it was a draw.

  • #15
  • #16

    yeah as bishop has to take pawn K + R vs K is a won endgame for black

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