Homemade puzzle #1 (Mate in 4!)

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Avatar of YuvalW

agree with tajamoen

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Yea, 4 moves is usually alot better than 5 moves + endgame. :)

Avatar of uhkam

OK updated by Tajamoen...

Avatar of marvellosity

1.Nxf6+ also seems trivially winning to me. Pointless puzzle I'm afraid.

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marvellosity wrote:

1.Nxf6+ also seems trivially winning to me. Pointless puzzle I'm afraid.


Starting out a bishop ahead and with a dangerous amount of pieces "aimed" at the opposing king position it is hard to find a move that doesn't lead to winning advantage.

Avatar of WanderingWinder

It seems that this isn't actually even a mate in four; sure, if black doesn't allow the mate, he's clearly losing, but clearly losing is not as bad as mated.

Avatar of uhkam

If Black avoids mate (taking with knight OR not to take rook), White then gets an advantage...

 

Meaning: White would still win...

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Is that not what I just said? Furthermore, it's still not mate in four...

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not FORCED!

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The problem with setting up this puzzle, is that moves 3.Qg4+ and 3.Qg3+ are both right.  It just reads 3.Qg3+ as the correct one.

And generally Nxf6+ before Rxd7 is the correct order of moves.

In both cases, Black can avoid direct mate threats.

After 1.Rxd7, Black will reply with Nxd7, not Qxd7. In the case of Nxf6+, black has to give up more material to avoid mate.

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You clearly missed something here.

1.Rxd7 Nxd7 2.Nh6? gxh6 3.Qg3+? Qg5 and Black has the advantage. 4.Qxg5 (hxg5) is of course not a mate.

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Puzzle deleted due to huge argueing.