Mate in two?

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Jazo23

Today at the club we got a puzzle, and it says mate in two...I don't know the answer, so I was hoping someone can help me! Cheers Laughing(btw I think the book from where we got the problem is wrong, mate in 3 and 4 yes, but mate in 2, I don't think so! )

 

pazeinat

No mate in 2 here, not even in 3.

pazeinat

The white queen should be on g4 and then there is a nice mate in 2.

scotchfaster

I plugged this into the chess program Bringer (ELO ~2400) and it calculated Mate in 4.

FT-physicist

1.Kd2 !!

If 1...Be2 2.Qh2 #

If 1... Bg2 2.Re2 #

Jazo23

Yeah, I know, did the same thing...there is a rook sacrifice involving Re1, Kxe1 followed by Qd2 mate! But black doesn't HAVE to take the rook, so i ould say it isn't mate in 2.

amaan1

I put this into Fritz 11 (ELO 3000!) and it calculate a mate in 4 I hope this helps.

Jazo23
FT-physicist wrote:

1.Kd2 !!

If 1...Be2 2.Qh2 #

If 1... Bg2 2.Re2 #


Why would he/she even move the bishop that way? And 1.solution it isn't mate, the king can go to the e1 square, and on your 2. solution it can still go to the f1 square...

Jazo23
amaan1 wrote:

I put this into Fritz 11 (ELO 3000!) and it calculate a mate in 4 I hope this helps.


Did you buy Fritz 11 or...? Laughing Laughing

FT-physicist

Just brought some idea . The solution is almost like that or like you said : Re1 and old stuffs.

dsibenik

There is a nice mate in two.
1. Qh2 Bg2
2. Qg2 Kg2
white resigns

 
Jazo23
FT-physicist wrote:

Just brought some idea . The solution is almost like that or like you said : Re1 and old stuffs.


Thanks for the idea Smile

heinzie

This is a problem by Sam Loyd but the white queen should be on g5

heinzie

I read the first comment by paz but skipped the 2nd one

Jazo23
heinzie wrote:

This is a problem by Sam Loyd but the white queen should be on g5


Can you find it on the internet and post the link here?

pazeinat

Fortunately, I have the book "Same Loyd and his chess problems" by Alain C. White and indeed, as heinzie mentioned, the problem is by Loyd. Published in "Musical World" October 1859

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since this one was already discussed above, here is another mate in 2 from the book

Sam Loyd, Musical World 1859

jnworsham
pazeinat wrote:

No mate in 2 here, not even in 3.


pazeinat

No, the diagram is perfect and there is a mate in 2. Absolutely!!

Why do you think there is no mate in 2??