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How do like the new scoring system for puzzles where you you get 5 points for a solve and minus 24 for wrong?
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Man it’s killing me haha.
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It's disgusting really

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Hi

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Minus 24 for missing the third move of the puzzle? Really? Blah

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5 points if you solve it in 2 hours or 7 seconds? That's nice too

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Have you set the puzzle difficulty to ‘extra hard’ in settings? Otherwise I think you get easier puzzles and can only get +5.
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I'll check

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I was on standard. I can switch it to try out the other two settings.

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runner3232 wrote:
How do like the new scoring system for puzzles where you you get 5 points for a solve and minus 24 for wrong?

They have long given a big minus when you miss puzzles well below your rating.

All your big point losses in the last 25 were for missing puzzles 1000 points below your rating.

And you get fewer points when you solve a puzzle below your rating.

As was suggested, you can change the difficulty of the puzzles.

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I tried a dozen or so at the middle difficulty. No difference. I will now try the most difficult setting.

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On the most difficult setting, 5 points is still the maximum. This was not the case 6 months ago No matter how quickly it's solved, you can only get 5 points.

Avatar of Coltino15
I don’t like the change. I did not know about it and was killing it on puzzles. My puzzle Elo hit an all time high…but all from long streaks with easy puzzles. It was better before when it would assign higher puzzles the higher your rating/score was.
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A crazy change, it hurts me to see it.
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Coltino15 wrote:
I don’t like the change. I did not know about it and was killing it on puzzles. My puzzle Elo hit an all time high…but all from long streaks with easy puzzles. It was better before when it would assign higher puzzles the higher your rating/score was.

I agree with that.

I came to the site after many months of absense and found out that after solving the puzzle I can't define the tags.

That was a vary good and helpful feature which is missing very much during the training process. It helped me improve my trainig.

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BackToEgypt wrote:

On the most difficult setting, 5 points is still the maximum. This was not the case 6 months ago No matter how quickly it's solved, you can only get 5 points.

In your last 25, you didn't match or beat the target time once.

If you get the answer correct and beat the target time, you will get more than 5 points.

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@BackToEgypt until your puzzle score drops back down to your real level (which is the low 2000s looking at your history) you’re going to have this problem - your level hiked because the system made all the puzzles easy for a while in July due to a bug/change. I suggest setting the difficulty to extra hard, watch your rating tumble until it’s back at the correct level again, at which point you’ll be getting +10s again for quickish solutions. The easier levels are useful for practicing bullet and blitz, so you need to respond really fast to get the good scores. Extra hard is more for puzzles where you can take 30s up to 2-3 mins and still often get more than +5.
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All that’s been said is true, but the puzzle system is still broken again, just as it was back in May but in a different way.

Even on extra hard you get a huge array of puzzles not directed to your puzzle rating ranging from 1200-2200 weighted to the lower end even when you’re at 2400. My puzzle rating has been stable at 2300 for 3 months now after the drop when the puzzle system was fixed but has plummeted as I find your brain works through a problem in a different manner for easy and hard problems. I’m getting the (few) 2000+ puzzles correct but being hammered by the 1500 puzzles. If I wanted 1200-1500 puzzles, I’d do puzzle rush!

There’s also no opportunity to win back points, as if there are no hard puzzles relative to your rating you will never get more than +5…
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The puzzles rated lowest usually have also the lowest pass rates of the puzzles I get.
A very weird way to balance the ratings. Gather points with higher rated puzzles just to lose chunks to lower rated puzzles which are clearly more difficult than the others.

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The new puzzle system is awful and a betrayal of the users. They announced it as a corrective to rating inflation, but it’s pouring gasoline on the fire. Rating and rank now are meaningless, they just tell you how much time you’ve spent doing puzzles, solving easy +5s.