in the game he played 3. Qg3 which was in your anaylsis Blackadder (except I played 3...Qf1+ which I think is slightly better than 3...Qb4+)
do you have to go with the best line for the opponent?
edit: even so 3...Qb4+ or 3...Qf1+ would be seen as ambigouos.
Thanks.
in the game he played 3. Qg3 which was in your anaylsis Blackadder (except I played 3...Qf1+ which I think is slightly better than 3...Qb4+)
do you have to go with the best line for the opponent?
edit: even so 3...Qb4+ or 3...Qf1+ would be seen as ambigouos.
Thanks.
On this occasion i think you are wrong to think Qf1 is better than Qb4 and I think objective assessment with prove I'm right. the reason is really simple: after Qb4+ ALL of the replies end up with the pawn promoting WITH CHECK.
If Qf1+ Kb2 you cannot simply promote due to Qb8+. instead you would have to play the line: h6 Qb8+ (nothing better) Kh7 ...any move...e8=Q
this line is longer and less forcing (still winning, of course)
Yes I see thanks for the explanation
sideline of one of my games:
modification of one of my games:
Remember, in cflux's puzzle there is always a threat for a back-rank mate for Black.
Ya that's why 4...Qf6 forcing a queen trade is good
I think you are both misunderstanding each other. if 3.Qf6 black mates with Qc8+ (this, I'm guessing, is what Stategic play is thinking about) whereas 4.Qf6 (instead of my suggested h6) forces Q-trades.
this does make your position tricky to make into a tactic cflux; cut it too short and its boring, make it longer and then there are several ways to win. (e.g. 4.h6 and 4.Qf6 both work. the latter being the better)
Katona's made it clear: puzzles with clear lines are what is need.
I stand corrected. 1...e2 2. Rxf8+ Qxf8 3. Qe5 Qd1+ 4. Kg2 Qf6 is how it should go.
Your puzzle is not a good one I am affraid. (As you become a better player you will begin to see why it doesnt work).
I think what Mr. Blackadder was saying was that these are some of the flaws:
Basically, there are at least 5 ways to get out of that mate. 2... a5 is a bad move.
This is probably the best tactic I managed to find in live chess
All the moves are largely superior to their alternatives.
you should've continued it
justified08 vs.krasify
online chess
Remember, in cflux's puzzle there is always a threat for a back-rank mate for Black.
Ya that's why 4...Qf6 forcing a queen trade is good
I think you are both misunderstanding each other. if 3.Qf6 black mates with Qc8+ (this, I'm guessing, is what Stategic play is thinking about) whereas 4.Qf6 (instead of my suggested h6) forces Q-trades.
this does make your position tricky to make into a tactic cflux; cut it too short and its boring, make it longer and then there are several ways to win. (e.g. 4.h6 and 4.Qf6 both work. the latter being the better)
Katona's made it clear: puzzles with clear lines are what is need.