Metaknight251 wrote:
nameno1had, did you check that with an engine?! Cause, just looking at it, I feel like there has got to be some other mate.... The position just looks that crazy. Just a hunch.
Chess_persn, your puzzle is ambigious because white can take the material in a different order and still win. I would move the a7 knight to f8, making Re7 mate.
Yes, verified... I got it from an engine. It is the hardest checkmate test question there.
Hi, I'd like to submit the last 3 moves from my game as a puzzle, starting with 43 Kg1 (forced mate in 3).
http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=353112131
I can't figure out how to generate a puzzle or I'd do the problem so everyone could see.
Nice mate in 6 here:
It is somewhat ambiguous because eighter rook could be moved to deliver the first check. But this can be fixed by adding a bishop/knight or moving the white king to e1.
Hi, I'd like to submit the last 3 moves from my game as a puzzle, starting with 43 Kg1 (forced mate in 3).
http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=353112131
I can't figure out how to generate a puzzle or I'd do the problem so everyone could see.
44... f4 works as well.
Hi, I'd like to submit the last 3 moves from my game as a puzzle, starting with 43 Kg1 (forced mate in 3).
http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=353112131
I can't figure out how to generate a puzzle or I'd do the problem so everyone could see.
44... f4 works as well.
Not true. 44... f4 would allow Re5+ and mate is lost. Put it in the computer if you don't believe me.
re5+ kc2. But the other sequence is clearly stronger.
Kc2 is an illegal move, but if you mean kd2 then the computer puts the advantage all the way to .37 for white after Nf6. only decent line after Re5+ for black is to block with the bishop, then white is forced to give up the exchange to prevent mate.
If anything these two comments are proving that this would be a good TT.
Hi, I'd like to submit the last 3 moves from my game as a puzzle, starting with 43 Kg1 (forced mate in 3).
http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=353112131
I can't figure out how to generate a puzzle or I'd do the problem so everyone could see.
44... f4 works as well.
Not true. 44... f4 would allow Re5+ and mate is lost. Put it in the computer if you don't believe me.
True. 44... f4 45. Re5+ Kf2 46. Re2+ Kxe2 and mate is in the next move. Your engine must have a bug if it disagrees.
White King is on g1, so black king is blocked from moving Kf2.
Nope, on move 44 it's on h2.
re5+ kf2. But the other sequence is clearly stronger.
No, it isn't. They both mate.
I was for some reason looking from move 43, your right, mate is just one move slower. My apologies.
A sideline from one of my recent games, slightly altered to make more clear.
From one of my OTB games
I know that it is ambiguous after the second move, but i think that the puzzle is quite instructive regarding pieces pinned to the king, and how they cannot defend anything, even mate
This one was OTB:
@snar, maybe your puzzle should start with black (the computer) playing f6 so that white's first move is Bd5+.
Why? is there a move vastly better than Qh4?
What happens after 1...Kf8 ? After Bh6 Kg8 Re5, Black moves either knight to e4.
idk. It just seems like it would be easier to see Bd5+ than Qh4 lol. maybe there should be 2 versions, an easy one and a hard one.
Maybe, but Qh4 isn't that hard to see once you see the bishop on h6, the dark squared weaknesses, plus the fact you know that this is a puzzle.
It's a good puzzle as a warning of the dangers of a fianchettoed bishop getting traded off, even for a rook, like what happened in the game
@chessgm8: 3.Re8# is more interesting.
No, I think 3. Re8# is more correct, but NxQ is more interesting. :-p