Shortest-proof-game challenge

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Leither123 wrote:
 

#6731

13.0

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Leither123 wrote:
 

#6733

14.0

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hi

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@6736

First try:

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EvinSung wrote:
#6736

Unique SPG in 14.5.

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Two questions:

1. Is this position's SPG unique?

2. For what other move count does the position have a unique proof game?

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n9531l1 wrote:

Two questions:

1. Is this position's SPG unique?

2. For what other move count does the position have a unique proof game?

1. Yes

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Please don't use computers. I did a test already. It's sound.

Hardly original, but seems to be the shortest possible problem of this theme.

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BigDoggProblem wrote:

Please don't use computers. I did a test already. It's sound.

Hardly original, but seems to be the shortest possible problem of this theme.

Is "this theme" the theme of a position with unique proof games of different lengths?

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BigDoggProblem wrote:

Please don't use computers. I did a test already. It's sound.

Hardly original, but seems to be the shortest possible problem of this theme.

Is "this theme" the theme of a position with unique proof games of different lengths?

No, it's a different theme. I wouldn't have said "shortest" for a thing like that.

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BigDoggProblem wrote:
n9531l1 wrote:

Is "this theme" the theme of a position with unique proof games of different lengths?

No, it's a different theme. I wouldn't have said "shortest" for a thing like that.

My suggestion would be to identify the comment(s) in which "this theme" occurs.

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BigDoggProblem wrote:

(#6742)

Hardly original, but seems to be the shortest possible problem of this theme.

Here is a slightly shorter problem of this theme. The unique SPG for this position ends with a move by Black, which should make everyone happy, including EndgameEnthusiast.

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hmm

does the theme necessitate capture?

if so i dont think your position is part of the theme

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n9531l1 wrote:
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n9531l1 wrote:

Is "this theme" the theme of a position with unique proof games of different lengths?

No, it's a different theme. I wouldn't have said "shortest" for a thing like that.

My suggestion would be to identify the comment(s) in which "this theme" occurs.

My counter would be, solve it and then you'll know the theme.

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Ilampozhil25 wrote:

hmm

does the theme necessitate capture?

if so i dont think your position is part of the theme

Bingo. It doesn't count.

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BigDoggProblem wrote:
Ilampozhil25 wrote:

hmm

does the theme necessitate capture?

if so i dont think your position is part of the theme

Bingo. It doesn't count.

Since #6742 refers to "this theme" without telling what it is, it's up to the solver to infer the theme. I did solve it, and decided the theme is a position with a unique SPG in which a promoted pawn is captured by the opposing king. My view is that my position meets the theme and has a shorter solution.

What is your description of the theme?