Shortest-proof-game challenge

whoops

do it then

well i think they're different in the way that all the squares around the black king are attacked multiple times

understood

#759
Shortened

#815
I think this is illegal. What is white's last move? What is black's last move? There is a problem.

#815
I found a way to almost reach this position, but one queen is at c3 instead of d3

Now it is shorter. Is that the shortest? Time will tell.

#815 is clearly illegal, since the black king is unattacked, but every square in its field is attacked at least three times. In your final position, the black king is unattacked, but there is one square in its field (d8) that is attacked only twice, meaning White has a retraction that leaves the king attacked only once and a second retraction that gives the king two adjacent unattacked squares. The king has to have legal squares to move to while the queens take their places.

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ok then do the position with queen c3

#827
half a move shorter:

Don't stop there. Or, do stop there, and post your first proof game for #806.

I take back what I said before about the position being illegal. Here's the position with the queen on c3 and Black to move, proven legal, except that White has let Black keep a rook.

So it was legal all along in the original position.

i knnew something like that was pssible

i knew it had to be legal somehow

#833
Splendid idea to leave a rook on
Here is a proof game

lol

that was MUCH faster than you queen c3 diagram

both queen c3 and queen d3 will be allowed

#836
The rook actually helps as the black king can install itself at e8 and the rook can shield it from checks.

tru

but a queen could be better

10 trophy

illegal I think