How can you make a selfmate puzzle with white to play if there is no white king on your board?
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SilverByte wrote:
How can you make a selfmate puzzle with white to play if there is no white king on your board?
That’s part of the joke-you must give yourself one! Promotion to any unit is allowed, as stated in the text.
RewanDemontay wrote:
SilverByte wrote:
How can you make a selfmate puzzle with white to play if there is no white king on your board?
That’s part of the joke-you must give yourself one! Promotion to any unit is allowed, as stated in the text.
Ah that's clever! not awake enough yet to read between the lines for me, sorry about that 
No problemeo! Remember, it’s in four moves if you wish to solve!
Hmm I can't seem to picture any final checkmating position. Am I right in assuming that you can't promote into check(mate)? Not an easy puzzle for sure, but then again, I'm not very good at selfmates
Correct, you cannot promote into checkmate, since that breaks the rule that you. can’t place your king in check.
RewanDemontay wrote:
Correct, you cannot promote into checkmate, since that breaks the rule that you. can’t place your king in check.
Unless it is your 2nd king 
Am I correct in saying the first move is e8=K+? Black is forced to play Kh6 and can't prevent the ensuing selfmate pattern.
Chess4PK wrote:
Am I correct in saying the first move is e8=K+? Black is forced to play Kh6 and can't prevent the ensuing selfmate pattern.
That is actually the second move.
I’m guessing three of the four moves have to be promotions to kings but still can’t get it...
texaspete wrote:
I’m guessing three of the four moves have to be promotions to kings but still can’t get it...
There’s only one king promotion.
Some good misdirection with “three wrong types” then!
Are you going to put me out of my misery @rewandemontay?
texaspete wrote:
Are you going to put me out of my misery @rewandemontay?
Sure! Here is the solution in white text for the curious: 1. hxg8=Pawn!+ Kg6 2. f8=King!+ Kf6 3. Ne4+ Ke6 4. d8=Black bishop! Bxe7#
RewanDemontay wrote:
texaspete wrote:
Are you going to put me out of my misery @rewandemontay?
Sure! Here is the solution in white text for the curious:
A challenge: could you make a problem with 3 promotions to "nothing"? Or 2? I've seen it done for 1 promotion to "nothing" but more probably requires a repetitive device of sorts!
Smart puzzle!
That’s really good - I was trying to do the puzzle with those moves but couldn’t make the promotions work to find a self-mate on the fourth move: didn’t think about promotions to pawns or black pieces!
texaspete wrote:
That’s really good - I was trying to do the puzzle with those moves but couldn’t make the promotions work to find a self-mate on the fourth move: didn’t think about promotions to pawns or black pieces!
Well I did specify “any unit” for a reason.
Arisktotle wrote:
RewanDemontay wrote:
texaspete wrote:
Are you going to put me out of my misery @rewandemontay?
Sure! Here is the solution in white text for the curious:
A challenge: could you make a problem with 3 promotions to "nothing"? Or 2? I've seen it done for 1 promotion to "nothing" but more probably requires a repetitive device of sorts!
2 and 3? Already done my friend!
Geir Sune Tallaksen Østmoel MatPlus.net Forum 11/12/2017, After Peter Wong
Black Moves, White Wins
Thomas R. Dawson, The Chess Amatuer 12/1913
White To Move And Draw
It’s White to move and enforce a selfmate in 4 moves. Promotion to any unit is allowed. Have fun solving!