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Dec 17, 2016
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#63
It's a little disconcerting once you've accepted free will is an illusion. You have to acknowledge you have no idea what a person will do.
Hawking talked about the idea of free will being a working theory.
I do find with some people that they are consistently kind and gentle and with those people I know what to expect.
But with those that are at times kind and other times cruel I accept I have no idea what's going to happen next.
Hawking talked about the idea of free will being a working theory.
I do find with some people that they are consistently kind and gentle and with those people I know what to expect.
But with those that are at times kind and other times cruel I accept I have no idea what's going to happen next.
Dec 17, 2016
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#64
I'd say that this is what I'm interested in. I don't think evolution is nonsense. I think that you are frightened to accept you don't exist.
Dec 17, 2016
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#65
Anyway I'm saying that we can't know why we do what we do. We can only guess. A human being is too complex to absolutely be known.
TOM-TOM "It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it...." good advice from the lyrics (Bananarama)
Dec 17, 2016
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#67
That's nice. I mean I think of the behaviour of others. So long as they are kind I don't mind what they do
Dec 17, 2016
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#68
That's true you can't.
Troy talked about we don't find the truth the truth finds us.
Troy talked about we don't find the truth the truth finds us.
Dec 17, 2016
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#70
I think though that the whole thing is a bit ridiculous. This whole idea we exist. I think Carolina is capturing the truth. Life is a dream.
Dec 17, 2016
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#71
No. You don't exist. You cling to the idea of your existence as part of the survival instinct. It's comfortable for you. Reassuring. But you're right. You can't find the truth. There is no you to find that.
If, Reality, is All an illusion.. Then, Why 'pray tell' is there a delineation, between, the objective, and the subjective ?!
Ie. Practically Everyone, can agree, what 'team' 'won' their 'championship' in whatever year, {and whatever 'sport'} - By, if need be, looking it up.. Yet, there's No agreement, over whether, 'so-and-so' a public figure, is a 'role-model, or a Total 'Jerk' perhaps!? o:
Dec 17, 2016
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#73
S23. @79.
I'm certain you don't exist. How can I know? I get it. Not just me. Hawking. Einstein. Darwin. We get that identity is an illusion. There is no I.
I'm certain you don't exist. How can I know? I get it. Not just me. Hawking. Einstein. Darwin. We get that identity is an illusion. There is no I.
Dec 17, 2016
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#74
Good question ed. This is because consciousness is particular to the individual life form. Good argument.
However look a little deeper and you'll see that really there is a pattern. That pattern connects all life. It's causality and nature. Separation is an illusion. It's all part of the same everything.
However look a little deeper and you'll see that really there is a pattern. That pattern connects all life. It's causality and nature. Separation is an illusion. It's all part of the same everything.
How do you see evolution Tom?
Try to answer that with a bottle of wine in your belly...
The verbatim theme, of my several minutes ago, E-mailed missive, to my {blood}, brother.. who lives, 6 blocks away, from me.
.. File, under, "Reality Bites"! ..{also, a '90s "Winona Ryder" starring movie} - Only, in this case, {see link}.. it refers to the latest 'Beijing' China, 'smog' problem.. Which, also made "Youtube" and other media mention, in early '2014' ..if not before!
.. Always nice to be aware, that all other's, have their Own, specific Life problems.. Lest, we become too, 'Woe is me' .. singularly, focused.
.. Have, A Great 'Saturday'! .. a 'self prompt' .. Attitude, may not be Everything.. but, it's Not too far removed !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSyc72cE32Q
Dec 17, 2016
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#78
S23 81. Well you were closer to the truth than he. The thing is though sure nature exists. There is the mammal, the insect, and so on. The sun the moon and the stars. All though are dancing to the drum of causality.
This idea of free will is a misunderstanding. There is consciousness of thought feeling and behaviour but that doesn't equate to free will. Two different things.
This idea of free will is a misunderstanding. There is consciousness of thought feeling and behaviour but that doesn't equate to free will. Two different things.
I think 'Tom' is referring to 'Pure' and or preponderant 'free will.' For a Fuller understanding, of that 'pov'.. Look under, 'Determinism' on the Web.
For a "YouTube" video, on that particular 'world view'.. "Sam Harris"/ determinism, {on 'YouTube'}, is among, its' better spoke-persons! .. Without, having Fully convinced, 'moi'.
i just only know that i feel horrible today...........bad and more..............i will let a song here before i close all and go to the chess tv so i can put my mind in that thing.............the problem is that i have to take an exam in some time and i cant concentrate to study correctly................por dios..........i dont know what to do....!!! ................i hope some of you like this song........i dont know which language is but i saw it in a movie and i think is nice..................
salut to everybody here..............
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEEky8-LLnM
i fly away!