anarchy thread! (technically not political)

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Abtectous
And now that we live in a world where everybody can have access to a weapon that instantly ends somebody, I think anarchy would be successful more so than in the past
Sobrukai
Abtectous wrote:
There is no evidence to suggest that anarchy was failing. Only that people wanted to enforce their wills upon others, government exist primarily as a way to take money from people and say it’s fine.

I don’t believe any modern-day country has tried to implement the concept of anarchy, but please fact check me.

Anyways, I think having a government in principle is a good thing. I don’t believe that anyone is born with evil intent, but oftentimes people can be swayed by temptation and desire. A government helps keep everyone in check by imposing a system of rules and guidelines to ideally ensure prosperity for each one of its citizens. Now, every government has its flaws (with some much more severe than others), but I would argue that it’s superior to people having free reign.

As for the taxes, ideally taxes are used to improve a government’s society, whether it be the military to government institutions to public parks and everything in between. Yes, they too are not perfect, but I would argue that they are generally an overall good. Also higher taxes are not necessarily bad. Take a look at the Nordic countries as an example, they have some of the highest taxes in the world, but in return they have some of the best education and welfare services in the world, among others. They also have very high happiness ratings, with I believe Switzerland being the happiest country in the world.

Sobrukai
Abtectous wrote:
And now that we live in a world where everybody can have access to a weapon that instantly ends somebody, I think anarchy would be successful more so than in the past

I agree with you on this part, I believe that allowing people to own firearms basically freely is one of the failures of the US government.

Abtectous
I think the main issue is that the government DOESNT keep people in check. The government breeds and sways people to do bad things, and giving people the kind of power that the government is, it corrupts most people.
Abtectous
As for taxes, they only improve what the government wants. Not what the people want. What would we do without taxes you ask? Who would build are roads? People. Like they do now, people would pay people, like they do now, to build roads. The difference here is that you don’t have to pay for things you don’t want.
Sobrukai
Abtectous wrote:
I think the main issue is that the government DOESNT keep people in check. The government breeds and sways people to do bad things, and giving people the kind of power that the government is, it corrupts most people.

I speak for the US specifically, and yes, I agree there are major issues. Inequality in our justice system is at an all time high with people of color and Hispanic descent face on average harsher sentences for the same crime compared to a white person. Our justice system also favors wealthy people over less wealthy people. Men are preferred over women. There are far more issues, I just picked inequality because it’s the largest issue.

That being said, I believe that having no government at all would not fix the issue. I believe instead we should work on passing legislation to better combat the striking inequality in our justice system system. Abolishing the government would do no good.

Abtectous
I respect your viewpoints, but I think the government causes bigger/more issues than having anarchy would.
Abtectous
There is no real way to know, of course, until/unless we actually try anarchy
Abtectous
I like spreading the viewpoint though because the more people who share anarchy, the higher chance it might actually happen.
Sobrukai
Abtectous wrote:
As for taxes, they only improve what the government wants. Not what the people want. What would we do without taxes you ask? Who would build are roads? People. Like they do now, people would pay people, like they do now, to build roads. The difference here is that you don’t have to pay for things you don’t want.

In a democratic system like the US we elect the people who decide where our tax money goes to, so we do sort of have a say. We pay tax money to things we don’t need or want because tax money is for the collective good, so your tax money can go towards things that help other people even if it doesn’t help yourself. It’s not perfect, but in an anarchy society taxes would likely never happen and thus there would be no money to fund what is good for the public.

Sobrukai
Abtectous wrote:
I respect your viewpoints, but I think the government causes bigger/more issues than having anarchy would.

I respect yours as well, and I totally understand your view. Governments around the world have been screwing people over for thousands of years. I just don’t think abolishing the government would fix these issues without creating issues of higher severity.

Abtectous
#30, can you really call the US a democracy? We have two options. Pick our poison? My solution is no witch hut at all. Many of my tax dollars go to these that I stand against, like atomic weaponry.
Sobrukai
Abtectous wrote:
#30, can you really call the US a democracy? We have two options. Pick our poison? My solution is no witch hut at all. Many of my tax dollars go to these that I stand against, like atomic weaponry.

Well, we are a democratic republic where we elect politicians to make decisions for us. The two party system isn’t great and it brews polarity and stifles the in-between. Washington advised against them in his closing address for those reasons. I don’t support nuclear weapons either, but we elected people who do so there isn’t much we can do. I know it sucks sometimes but no system can please everybody. There are many people who do support nuclear weapons and love everything that’s going on. Even if we think they are dumb they still should have their voice.

Mc_Jess

Wow right! totally not political at all, just casually talking about governments, elections, party systems, nuclear policies, public opinions, and who gets to have a say, should I add more? Definitely just a fun chat about the weather, no politics here

Max1679
I still thing this is political.
Max1679
So,
Max1679
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Abtectous
I think technically, governments arnt political. Hear me out.
Hot_Rash

#5 until the trust-based system collapses then it's pure chaos

Hot_Rash

Technically this isn't political, it's the absence of politics 😭