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1. The fact that we don't know how something was done does not mean that it was done by aliens.

2. Any civilization that can navigate the positively enormous distances necessary to arrive at our planet wouldn't need to navigate via landmarks once the arrived. However, this does not mean that aliens didn't build the pyramids only that I disagree with the argument.

3. Much of the mythology of the Old Testament came from the Babylonians, Summerians, etc. The fact that these stories have been passed down through the ages neither affirms nor disproves their veracity.

I work with a woman who came here from India, and she says the people of India more or less take the fact that we have been visited by aliens for granted. I believe there must be intelligent life somewhere else in the universe, but I'm skeptical that we will ever come in contact with those beings. Most people focus on the incredible distance in space that would be involved in making contact. Also, species evolve and become extinct in a relatively short period of time, and this proccess is repeating itself throughout the very long history of the universe. So there is also an enormous distance in time that makes contact unlikely.

I'm not sure interaction with more advanced civilizations would be good for mankind. Everything we thought we knew would become obsolete or irrelevent. Man could no longer be governed by the old rules, the old ways. It would be chaos, and we'd be reduced to being pets of the alien civilization. And that assumes that they are benevolent. We could wind up being exterminated like the Native Americans.

Are you talking about stones like this?

The Romans were able to move stones that big with ropes, stones, and wheels. Why do you think people could not have moved these things? The entire architecture around Baalbeck, looks like ancient Greek architecture.

you are right electric pawn. Buddah is usually depicted floating on a cloud native americans have always been  aware of sky gods so to speak.

also all civilisation came from sumer.

also we are more slaves than pets,.

yes trysts the greeks and the romans both rebuilt there though a lot of the original remained, Those giant stones were original and weighed in excess of 100tons, even if they could be moved easily the question is why? Also if the location was not important why would the romans feel it necessary to build their largest ever monument in an out of the way province?

Are you saying that we are slaves of an alien civilization?

We were created, as in the genesis story AS SLAVES, in order to mine gold for the anunnaki.Even without them the human race is nothing but slaves for the 5% anyhow. Do the math. As it were they didnt have far to travel, as nibiru enters our solar system once every 3600years, Which incidentally is how long passed between mans gifts or boosts in civilisation.

You could argue that we are slaves to even less than 5%, and it has always been that way. I can't argue; I have to get ready for work!

Lol. Thats what im saying. I put it to you that they are still here.

if i were an alien that really wanted gold from this planet and had ships to get here i would have probably given my slaves really awesome tools to get me the gold.  not make them use sticks, stones, ropes, etc.  i would think we would find ancient alien jack hammers, evidence of mining explosions, or plasma cutters of some sort.  not a battery that runs on urine in a clay pot. 

also, i would think that i would put a giant light at the top of my pyramids so i could land at night.  unless they just built pyramids on opposite sides of the planet so they could always land some place during the daytime. 

it is the technology that is missing that is harder to explain than how ancient peoples did seemingly impossible things. 

that is exactly what they did do, the bronze age anyone? as is so many other areas where gifts were given, we were taught how to make bronze, which involved the smelting of tin. tin was not accessible during the bronze age. where did it come from? the answer is the so called new world.... i notice though that you are familiar with the "baghdad battery" in order to create something like that, however rudimentary it is necessary to understand electricity at its atomic level, i suggest that these were used for simple purposes such as lighting, perhaps in mines.

 The christian view would be that we were created by God. How? The bible isn't clear about that.. at least not clear enough for a scientific waterproof explanation.

Here's what I think.. and I don't share this view with many christians, although I believe it to be truth. If you know a little about Jewish mysticism, there's some answers to be found there; according to this, a human schooled in Jewish occultism can 'create' a human being from 'dust', in a way similar to what God did.. but the result will never be at the level of God's creation. God also dislikes this practice by humans, because it's basically magic. And God forbids that.

And as far as the annunaki/nephilim goes; I don't believe they populated the earth.. as I said, they are the offspring of fallen angels mating with human wives. They were indeed half angel/half human. But they came to earth after they were rejected from heaven.. and that was after the creation of humans.

This view of mine is based on the belief that the bible, as we know it, tells the truth about our origin, despite other stories circulating that might be older, but not neccesarely tell the truth.

If I would believe the annunaki to be our creators, it would be the same as saying: "the offspring of satan created us", which is total nonsense from a christian point of view.

I can however believe that these nephilim tried to enslave us, and work for them, and that they want to convince us that they were the gods of old.. This fits perfectly with satan's attempts at getting the humans to believe in anything but the real, one God.

In my opinion, the choice you have to make is either believing stories told by men who were inspired by these offspring of fallen angels, or you believe stories that were written by men who were inspired by God Himself, i.e. the prophets of Judaïsm.

Then it might become a question of, "well then, who is the real God? the annunaki or God, the creator?" Well, this proof has been delivered by the prophets of Judaïsm, and is told about in the Old Testament. The many 'gods' that people believed in when a Jewish prophet came along always turned out to be easily beaten when put to the test against the one, true God.

The fact that people nowadays are falling for those old stories of 'the gods' is that the devil still has influence over the non-believers, i.e. the people who don't believe in the one, true God. Satan and his demons (fallen angels and their offspring) still try to mislead humanity and turn them away from the truth.

So what is the truth? How can you know for sure? Well, I can't convince anyone. Only God can do that. If you're open to sincerely knowing the truth, God will not withhold it from you.  The annunaki however will tell you lies, that's a thing I believe for sure..

Man, I really dislike these kinds of debates, since in the end it's about personal belief. And about people looking at other people for answers, instead of looking into God, who has given all the answers already thru his prophets.

Thanks for your response "kneejo"...the main problem I have with religion is exactly what they are all based on "faith"...no hard evidence...no smoking gun...no voice from heaven...but only based on what someone else tells you...

I believe that cartoons are real!

Which are your favorite? I like Snagglepuss.

The Flintstones documentaries

see, i wouldn't have flown half way across the universe and have my slaves pee in a jar to see my gold.  i would at least give them a flashlight.  of course, it would probably be some sort of fancy flashlight with a battery that would last for hundreds of years, you know, like the ones on my spaceship.  my spaceship that is probably built out of a metal that would make better tools than bronze does.  so, i would probably go ahead and teach them how to make that, too.  i would be pretty peaved if i flew half way across the universe to pick up my gold only for my slaves to tell me that they don't have a full ship's worth because they didn't make the fires hot enough to get a good pick. 

although, i am really not certain what you mean about understand electricity on "an atomic level", i am pretty sure i didn't have that understanding when i figured out that i could rub my feet on the carpet and zap my friends.  and perhaps the person that dropped a coathanger in the chamber pot and got zapped when fetching it didn't quite undertand it, either. 

That's funny