nothing to see here

 Here's some pictures from the trip:

http://www.chess.com/photos/view_album/corrijean/grand-canyon?page=1

Jupiter at the moment is in the east though. According to hns planetarium. Vega is closer to zenith. Deneb is directly zenith and is always above the harizon. But not that bright.

Afraid not, i wish i had though i would love to go and check that out right now, if it is jupiter, how come that i see it on most nights, surely there would be times when it isnt visible from earth or at least my position on it.

Thanks for the pics corrijean i`ll have to check em out in the morning though.

Nice, Corri, and a whole week there too!

That's the way to do it.

He's in England.

Yeah, i know, its a planetarium. I am viewing the sky from england.

Jupiter is out there, in a fairly slow orbit around the sun. In any season it won't appear to move that much, then when next year rolls around, after it is time for it to be back in the night sky, it will have moved considerably.

Saturn moves more slowly yet, and when I was looking at Uranus and Neptune for a few years they weren't changing position re the stars much at all.

The further out you go, the more this is the case.

Well, I know Jupiter is about at the zenith at dawn, and it will be for him too.

Saw Jupiter a few mornings ago.

"Jupiter (magnitude –2.6, in southern Aries) rises in the east-northeast around 10 p.m. daylight saving time. Look above it for the little star pattern of Aries and (once Jupiter is well up) closer below it for the head of Cetus, rather dim. Jupiter shines highest in the south just before dawn, making this the best time to examine it with a telescope. It's 44 arcseconds wide."

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/ataglance

edit: the clock for the planetarium software likely needed to be advanced several hours. For me I'd have to add 8 hours I think for UTC.

Did the annunaki create chess...

Do you know where chess came from? If not, then yes.

Then it cant be jupiter as since my initial question to the last post i made at 4ish it had moved a good 45 degrees across the sky.

Its a possibility, the earliest form of chess we know of can be traced to india.

It was called chaturariga, and included pieces such as the elephant and the chariot.

I mean move relative to the stars....

Night-to-night, Jupiter will maintain a steady place relative to the stars.

oh i see.

This is a sumerian clay cylinder scroll, the image was made by rolling the cylinder into wet clay, an ingenious method of reproducing many copies of the same image, you could say it was the worlds first printing press, and for more interesting than anything trysts has to say or lack thereof.