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Bex1p

fair enough, dunno how i was supposed to deduce that from a name, im dealing with more than just you here, so you will have to bear with me, and im pretty sure he didnt make that map, if he did where did he get his info, he certainly did not travel to those places.

trysts
Bex1p wrote:

fair enough, dunno how i was supposed to deduce that from a name, im dealing with more than just you here, so you will have to bear with me, and im pretty sure he didnt make that map, if he did where did he get his info, he certainly did not travel to those places.


The Orontius Finaeus map (1531)

"Hapgood (and those derivative of him) use other maps allegedly showing Antarctica that are, at first sight, even more than the Piri Re‘is map. The first of these is a product of Orontius Finaeus Delphinus (1494-1555), whom most Bad Archaeologists consistently and incorrectly refer to as Oronteus (more properly, his name was Oronce Fine or Finé, although the Latinised version seems to be in more common use, at least among the Bad Archaeologists). The map in question was published in 1531 and its supporters claim that it shows the continent at the correct scale, placing the Weddell and Ross Seas as well as Queen Maud Land, Wilkes Land and Marie Byrd Land in their correct longitudes. Again, if these claims are correct, they would display an even more remarkable knowledge of the continent than that supposedly (but demonstrably not) shown by Piri Re’is.

The map of Oronce Fine

The map of Oronce Finé

Although there are fairly obvious similarities between the general depiction of the southern continent by Orontius Finaeus and modern maps of Antarctica, they do not stand up to close scrutiny; indeed, there are more differences than similarities, much as one would expect from a map drawn without genuine knowledge of the southern continent! To show that Orontius’s Terra Australis corresponds to the outline of Antarctica, it was necessary for Hapgood to rotate the depiction by about twenty degrees, move the South Pole by 7½° (1,600 km) and alter the scale, as Terra Australis is 230% the size of Antarctica. Hapgood used this change in scale to explain the absence of the Antarctic Peninsula (Palmer Land), which he believed Orontius Finaeus had to omit from his map as it would have overlapped with South America at that scale; he explained that Finaeus confused latitude 80° south with the Antarctic Circle. Just as with his treatment of Piri’s map, Hapgood also had to shuffle whole sections of coastline to make them fit. It is unclear how the hypothesised original map had become fragmented and wrongly recombined; it is even more unclear how the fringe writers can go on to claim that various geographical features are shown in their correct places and at the correct scale. Again, these writers ignore what we know about the life of Oronce Fine."

trysts

It's best to know how maps are made: Other maps, books, stories, hypothesis.

Bex1p

This is a sumerian image that depicts, communication between earth symbolised by the seven dots in the top left corner (earth being the 7th planet to the anunnaki, from the outside in) and others on a craft between earth and mars sybolised by the 6 pointed star in the top right.

trysts
Bex1p wrote:

 

This is a sumerian image that depicts, communication between earth symbolised by the seven dots in the top left corner (earth being the 7th planet to the anunnaki, from the outside in) and others on a craft between earth and mars sybolised by the 6 pointed star in the top right.


Yes, the Sumerians were so far advanced that they created playdough, and without the help of cookie cutters, they were able to be obscureLaughing

electricpawn

im dealing with more than just you here,

Word of advice, mate. Never say "just you" when dealing with a woman. It can never end well.

Bex1p

Neither can trying to tell them something. Laughing

Ok so perhaps we are able to explain that map however that is just one of the many points i have made so far. There will be more to come. I present you with evidence and you discount it because it is made of clay. The sumerians were not the anunnaki, they were the first civilisation that stemmed from knowledge given by the anunnaki. Take a look for yourself at the various other achievements of the sumerians, its as easy as typing sumeria. look for example at their depiction of the solar system complete with the 12th planet or at some of the structures they built. The complete mapping of the stars and dividing them into 12 houses. The sumerians were well aware of their place in the universe and how they came to be there, after 6000 years man is still dragging its knuckles. There will come a time in our lifetime when you will have no choice but to see what im talking about, i am certain of that.

planeden

note - this is not intended to be of any benefit to Bex1p, as clearly NASA is part of the misinformation campaign, but i feel i should share some of it for the humorous nature of it.  my personal funniness does not seemed to have woken up yet, so i am depending on the apparently hilarious people at NASA to help. 

Q: What is the origin of the prediction that the world will end in 2012?
A: The story started with claims that Nibiru, a supposed planet discovered by the Sumerians, is headed toward Earth. This catastrophe was initially predicted for May 2003, but when nothing happened the doomsday date was moved forward to December 2012. Then these two fables were linked to the end of one of the cycles in the ancient Mayan calendar at the winter solstice in 2012 -- hence the predicted doomsday date of December 21, 2012.

Q: Does the Mayan calendar end in December 2012?
A: Just as the calendar you have on your kitchen wall does not cease to exist after December 31, the Mayan calendar does not cease to exist on December 21, 2012. This date is the end of the Mayan long-count period but then -- just as your calendar begins again on January 1 -- another long-count period begins for the Mayan calendar.

i have limited to just these two because they tie specifically to what has been adressed here (or, i suppose soon will be since all of the google pages and youtube videos on niburuiasdfwhatever -the crossing planet- jumped on board with the mayan's). 

for those who wish to laugh...err know...more, http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html is there for you. 

i especailly agree with the part that states "if nibiru (yep, i looked it up that time) were to be here within 2 years it would be visible to the naked eye".  so, go snap a picture tonight and post it and mail me whatever crow you would like me to eat. 

Bex1p

blithering idiot, you have no idea what you are talking about. Nibiru was not discovered by the sumerians they were aware of it in the same way that i know you havent got a clue. The mayan long count is a count of days since a beginning some 3500 years ago or so, as it is a count of days hence long count why would another period start? What was it that caused the mayans to begin the long count? any answers? Or why they had 3 calenders and the same zodiac as the sumerians including leo when there are no lions in south america, it will go on as it has done evre since the beginning. Nobody said nibiru would be here in 2 years certainly not me, the only thing i agree with in your misinformed babble is that it will be visible when it comes then there will be no more room for doubt. If you believe anything nasa have to say then you are clearly a good american citizen. Back to the pasture sheep.

Bex1p

im also assuming you only wrote the part of that, that doesnt make any sense. Laughing

Conquistador

Hate to tell the OP, but the Obecki Teki designed ringed temples that resemble celestial orbits, and they predated the Sumerians by 6000 years.  So are they aliens Bex1p?

What about the Bosnia Pyramid?  It is looking to be larger than the pyramids built in Egypt according to some experts.

oinquarki

*cannot tell if trolling or just very stupid*

Bex1p

Whats op? not sure about the obecki teki, but there certainly were structures built before the sumerians. However they were not built by men or for men. The bosnia pyramid is perhaps the most impressive structure that i have ever seen, definately larger than the great pyramid in mass and actually was a tomb i believe. whether they were aliens or not they were difinately influenced by them for my money so i would say yes as i am certain that the great pyramid was also and this came later. The earth was inhabited by them long before homo sapiens arrived on the scene and later the right to rule was given by them.

Bex1p

Cannot find anything on the obeki teki and dont think ive come across them before. As for the bosnian pyramid, still impressive but not what i thought it was, got it confused with a pyramid elsewhere.

Conquistador

Well that pyramid is buried and is curently being unearthed.  Of course it would not look impressive.

Bex1p

No i disagree, when you can clearly see that it is a pyramid, it is impressive in its sheer size alone. I was thinking of a bolivian pyramid when i wrote the last post. More and more structures are being found these days, hopefully soon we will unearth undisputable evidence of ancient astronauts that your friends the conquistadores havent destroyed or melted down. Imagine what is buried under the vatican never to see the light of day again. However if anything was found i doubt that we would be informed, sadly information is power and the powers that be would rather we didnt taste that particular apple.

electricpawn

There were numerous mound building cultures among the Native Americans who lived in the US. The Aztecs, Mayans, Incas, Egyptians, Bosnians and Bolivians built pyramids. Isn't it possible that mound and pyramid building was a phase in the evolutionof human society?

Bex1p

I wouldnt say a phase in the evolution of society but this was done in emulation of the gods for the gods, as they came to be known. This was done by all of those cultures that you mentioned but why? and also why were the designs so similar when these cultures had suppsoedly never met? Depictions of Sumerian and incan "gods" for example were virtually identical in their appearance and adornments, i suggest that they were the very same "gods" who were easily able to travel from one continent to another. The pyramids were symbolic "stairways to heaven" but more besides.

Mithras

#80  mis9read how do you get a nine in the middle? ive heard of fat fingers but wtf? Tongue out

#117 OP = Original Poster

 

 

so nibiru, this 12th planet, left the orbit of its own sun. it travelled all the way to our solar system and begins to orbit, then hits a planet a couple of times and leaves our moon as it travels and it's due to come back again next year.

Is that what you re saying to me?

all this science from a man who thinks Pluto is still a planet!! Laughing

 

So what do you suggest we do? I dont want to mine Gold, can we fightback? are they allergic to salt water? (why are they after gold anyway, do the aliens really dig da Bling ?Undecided)

 

 

 

 

p.s     Pancakes Rule

Mithras
electricpawn wrote:

1. The fact that we don't know how something was done does not mean that it was done by aliens.

2. Any civilization that can navigate the positively enormous distances necessary to arrive at our planet wouldn't need to navigate via landmarks once the arrived. However, this does not mean that aliens didn't build the pyramids only that I disagree with the argument.

3. Much of the mythology of the Old Testament came from the Babylonians, Summerians, etc. The fact that these stories have been passed down through the ages neither affirms nor disproves their veracity.

I work with a woman who came here from India, and she says the people of India more or less take the fact that we have been visited by aliens for granted. I believe there must be intelligent life somewhere else in the universe, but I'm skeptical that we will ever come in contact with those beings. Most people focus on the incredible distance in space that would be involved in making contact. Also, species evolve and become extinct in a relatively short period of time, and this proccess is repeating itself throughout the very long history of the universe. So there is also an enormous distance in time that makes contact unlikely.

I'm not sure interaction with more advanced civilizations would be good for mankind. Everything we thought we knew would become obsolete or irrelevent. Man could no longer be governed by the old rules, the old ways. It would be chaos, and we'd be reduced to being pets of the alien civilization. And that assumes that they are benevolent. We could wind up being exterminated like the Native Americans.


+1

 

don't like your idea of benevolent though , in my mind i'm hoping for the aliens from close encounters(the idealist in me)