Appropriate "OFF TOPIC" topics?

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erik

Well, here we are :) The introduction of the "off-topic" forum has had some interesting results. I have appreciated hearing about weird questions to ask at parties, my favorite canned fruit, movies, books, etc. It has been fun, and appropriate. The point of this forum was for fun and interesting conversation - things that would bring us together, not pull us apart. We are a community built on CHESS and friendship.

I personally would much rather NOT see discussions of things that tend to create bad feelings on this site. Those topics are RELIGION and POLITICS. There are plenty of places on the web to discuss those subjects, but I don't feel Chess.com is that place. Again, this is a place to come together around chess, not debate and argue things that have no finite answers. I'm happy to see a vigorous debate around the merits of the Grob, or if Harry Potter is worth reading, but the origins of Christianity? Let's leave that to MySpace and other forums. 

I don't want to make anybody feel offended by this, so I'm opening it up to comments. I will end up making a decision as to the policies of this site based on the feedback I get here, but again, my goal is to bring us together under the love of chess, not push us apart based on our political or religious beliefs.

I'm listening... :) 

pdubya12

As a Pentecostal evangelist, I imagine that I am supposed to belong in the "offended" crowd, but I actually like your suggestion Erik.  I signed up to play chess and not "fight" about religion which is what has happened to me at other chess sites.  I mention my faith in my profile, because I mention it everywhere, all of the time, but I have no interest in arguing the authenticity of the Bible, origin of man, etc.

By the way, I love the site. 

chessbot3000

That's maybe a good idea, Erik. I think that although something is typed with the best of intentions, once it has been reduced to ones and zeroes, fired down a phone line and reconverted into text, it is possible for it to be misunderstood. This forum cannot convey peoples' feelings in the same way as face-to-face conversation, for example, because the latter has the added benefits of tone of voice, facial and hand gestures and so forth.

Religion, politics, and which country produces the best beer are probably not subjects to discuss here.

Before you rule on this, I'd just like to say England produces the best beer.Wink 

Patzer24
I agree that the off topic forum should be left to friendly and fun non-chess topics rather than controversial topics which can lead to heated conversations.
Sprite
Chess is chess.  People passionate about chess share something in common with me, and that's the characteristic that brought us to this site.  I agree, that and keep everything positive. 
fischer-inactive
Erik, I totally agree. People have been arguing over religion and politics for centuries, and those debates will not end anytime soon. Nothing good will arise from giving these topics a forum on Chess.com, and I don't think anyone should be offended if you decide to nix both of them.
WEdgards

"Those topics are RELIGION and POLITICS. ... Let's leave that to MySpace and other forums. "

Perhaps I have a bias towards 'myspace' people as mostly shallow and plasticky, but one must admit that that still sounds a little funny. :p

A famous quote: "Tolerance is fine, but only towards the tolerant" or somesuch. If people would show enough maturity in discussion of these topics (that is to not offend so readily and not to be offended so easily) than I think that there is no reason that they should be discouraged. Unfortunately, these topics are very inflamatory to humans, particular diverse groups thereof and immaturity about such things is common even among the normally mature people.

IMHO it all comes down to the philosophy of 'live and let live' and who can handle it.

tony23
chessbot3000 wrote:

Before you rule on this, I'd just like to say England produces the best beer. 


Well, except for the beer I make!

 

Seriously, though - I actually replied to a comment where someone said they would determine who they would associate with based on that person's opinion of George Bush.  It's a sad commentary, but it underscores that politics and religion can bring out a lot of visciousness and hatred - and I would hate to see chess.com marred by that.

 

This IS a privately owned forum, and as such, Erik has a perfect right to regulate what is said on these forums. I think that keeping those discussions away from here would not be a bad idea. You certainly will get no objection from me.

chessbot3000
tony23 wrote: chessbot3000 wrote:

Before you rule on this, I'd just like to say England produces the best beer. 


Well, except for the beer I make!


tony23, send me a sample of your beer, I am always happy to reconsider my opinions! Smile

cmh0114
I agree.  If people want to have a friendly debate over religion or politics, that's fine, but people always seem to flare up if someone says something they see as offensive.  Chess.com and its admins shouldn't have to deal with that.
LeviAJones
on other community sites, they will sometimes have a "war room" that doesn't show in recent activity lists. but ultimately i think its better to just not discuss it.
doctor-ice
two topics that can never be resolved because they are based on personal beliefs. religion and politics,i agree,dont belong on a chess site,beacause they just stir up dissent ,anger and resentment. we have enough of that in our losing games-just kidding. this,i believe ,is not the forum for those topics.
thetimetraveller
On the other hand, it is absolutely essential that we have a forum dedicated to the discussion of beer, that essential post-chess beverage...Tongue out
Hugh_T_Patterson
I have to agree with Erik. We are simply too emotional as a species to be able discuss religion and politics with rational and logic train of thought. This is not the place to get into two subjects that, for lack of a better description, have torn families apart and have caused wars. Granted, a doubt anything other than a war words would erupt here. We should use our off topic area for lighter topics, such as who makes the best beer, something I think we can all safely get involved in. I have seen too many websites and forums turn into vicious rants because of people's beliefs in religion and politics. Let's stick to having fun. After all, the world can be a cruel place and we come here for our love of chess. The site offers shelter from the day to day storm called life.
batgirl

"I personally would much rather NOT see discussions of things that tend to create bad feelings on this site. Those topics are RELIGION and POLITICS."

 

Whew!

I thought for a moment you wre going to say sex.

 

 

narkizopoint
thetimetraveller wrote: On the other hand, it is absolutely essential that we have a forum dedicated to the discussion of beer, that essential post-chess beverage...

 Beer is for post chess??? No wonder I keep losing...

But on the topic of off topic, yeah Erik, I agree on keeping out divisiveness. Some might argue that when two people sit down to a game of chess it is the opposition withing the friendly confines of competition as well as a nicely argued debate between friends that people are seeking out when they push the wood around the board but...those games are usually between friends who can agree to disagree. Here in the anonymous realm of the web people can get too heated and divisive. I love the feel of community this site still has and would love to see it remain that way. Thanks for the great site Erik. 

 

earltony15
Politics and religion should not be discussed in a chess.com  forum.  The risk/reward ratio just isn't worth it.  More people will get upset than happy.  Besides, it's just not appropriate, in my opinion. 
thetimetraveller
narkizopoint wrote: thetimetraveller wrote: On the other hand, it is absolutely essential that we have a forum dedicated to the discussion of beer, that essential post-chess beverage...

 Beer is for post chess??? No wonder I keep losing...


I think keeping the beer post-chess is advisable, unless it's that weak French stuff...  But a few pints of good English Real Ale (Beowulf Dragonsmoke, Lump Hammer or Titanic, perhaps) could well improve the performance of some arbiters...

 

But seriously, it is probably a good idea to keep religion and politics off here if we want to keep things friendly. 

 

Even more seriously, let's have a forum for Beer (d'oh!).

LordoftheTeapot
Tea forum? Smile 
syrianchessmaster
batgirl wrote:

"I personally would much rather NOT see discussions of things that tend to create bad feelings on this site. Those topics are RELIGION and POLITICS."

 

Whew!

I thought for a moment you wre going to say sex.

 

 


LOL  very funny bat girl!  :) 

and I agree with Eric on this topic,  He's the Boss!  :)