Bible Vs. Science

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Winnie_Pooh wrote:

I still wonder about one thing.

Why do you need a holy spirit when you already have a father almighty?

The others don´t have a holy spirit, do they?

 

It doesn't matter what I or you need.It only matters what is. God is one in 3 persons perfect unity:Father,Son,and Holy Spirit.

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The "holly spirit" is an experience that you may or may not have during the proper method of meditation. It is also called the kundalini(serpent). the "dove" that descends upon Jesus as a 13 year old child was this experience. "Gabriel","Vishnu", etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer

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So Jesus is his own father? Only God could pull that off with a straight face!
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Winnie_Pooh wrote:

I still wonder about one thing.

Why do you need a holy spirit when you already have a father almighty?

The others don´t have a holy spirit, do they?

 

It doesn't matter what I or you need.It only matters what is. God is one in 3 persons perfect unity:Father,Son,and Holy Spirit.

God = Father + Son + Holy Spirit

Unless:

Son = Holy Spirit = 0

or

Son = - Holy Spirit 

that means that:

Father  God 

I didn´t know that!

I always thought the equation is:

Father = God

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The Holy Spirit is not an experience. He is God.

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I had the experience myself as a 13 year old child. buddy

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The Holy Spirit is not an experience. He is God.

Now I am confused:

God = Father + Son + Holy Spirit

Holy Spririt = God

Means:

Father = - Son

Just like particle and antiparticle? Undecided

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The three equations:

God = Father + Son + Holy Spirit

and 

Holy Spirit = God

and

Father = Son = Holy Spirit


would be true if


Father = Son = Holy Spirit = 0

That is a result which makes a lot of sense to me. Laughing


But how does

Father  Son  Holy Spirit

fit in ?? Undecided

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concerning the question TOPIC post one :

         there is no Bible vs .... Science, but :

bibleS vs science. Bible or Babel ?

What is in common in the Bible of Pope François and bible of Queen Elizabeth ?  you may know Her majesty is the Chief of Anglicanism which has exactly nothing to do with popes since 500 years.

So there are many bibleS with different approachs.

People died for nuances, and since 1964 they speak about unifying all Christian Churches. It means fifty one years NOT to be unified. (what they call oecumenism). 

So in three thousand years, no one will get this essential question about existence :

"People make no doubt about Abram/Abraham, and plenty of them have plenty of doubts about JC life, 3000 years later. Why ?"

(see an excellent movie with Antonio Banderas discovering in Jerusalem Jesus's brother, Martin Scorcese etc ....).

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The graphic is wrong!

If a = b = c then a = c

Simple math!

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Because God is indivisable. So The Father,Son,and Holy Sprit,are wholly,completely God.

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Because God is indivisable. So The Father,Son,and Holy Sprit,are wholly,completely God.

Bob, somehow I envy you.

I am full of doubts, but for you everything is crystal clear. Life is not fair Frown 

Imagine: Particle physicists spent billons of dollars and myriads of working hours just to prove the existence of one goddamned particle (Higgs-boson) and still don´t know for sure. You guys have only one old book and with that everything is said and done for you ... can it really be that easy?

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It's not easy. Just believe,without knowing,or understanding even.A little,tiny bit of trust,and you get everything. Surrender yourself.

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Winnie_Pooh wrote:
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The three equations:

God = Father + Son + Holy Spirit

and 

Holy Spirit = God

and

Father = Son = Holy Spirit


would be true if


Father = Son = Holy Spirit = 0

That is a result which makes a lot of sense to me. 


But how does

Father  Son  Holy Spirit

fit in ?? 

the son is god's mercy and the spirit is god's judgment. which constitutes  the name YHVH = 22 and is pronounced like Allah (inhale and exhale)

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It means The existence of existence

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lol

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"ehyeh asher ehyeh"

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Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.

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It's not easy. Just believe,without knowing,or understanding even.A little,tiny bit of trust,and you get everything. Surrender yourself.

I am obsessed by the idea that everything worth gaining has to be aquired by hard work. Therefore I am suspicious to everything that comes easy ...