Bishop vs. Rook?

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polydiatonic wrote:
K vs K +B = DRAW

K vs K+R = WIN


Special ability like giving a chekmate against a lone king actually means very little when deciding the general relative value of pieces: just think about the fact that K vs. K+2N is a draw while K vs. K+R is a win.

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polydiatonic wrote:
FifthDimension wrote:

Although the main line is:

But lets get back to the topic of Bishop vs. Rook

That's not the "main line", that's a different opening.  The fried liver attack is a variation of the "two knights defense".  What you're are calling the main line is a different (but related) opening called the "Giuoco Piano".  Sometimes called the "italien game".  I guess ignorance is bliss.

I got tired of reading all of the post by people trying to help you while you stubbornly ignored the truth of what they're telling you so I didn't read all of the posts.  Just in case no one said this yet:

K vs K +B = DRAW

K vs K+R = WIN


 I think you are confused please go get a openings book or look at the game explorer here on chess.com also work on your spelling, it's like a five year old did it.

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I'm afraid once again you're just plain wrong. + This is chess.com, not english.com.

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"...also work on your spelling, it's like a five year old did it."

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sigh I don't want to argue with you anymore, you're the type of person who would argue with a goat...

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MyCowsCanFly wrote:

 


 lol what the heck?

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Work on your chess reasoning, its like a five-year-old did it.

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A bishop may be as good or better in some situations, but a rook is better in many more, if not most situations. That's why it is worth five while the bishop is worth three. I think a five year old could latch on to that.

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FifthDimension wrote:

sigh I don't want to argue with you anymore, you're the type of person who would argue with a goat...


You've finally shown your true colors.  You're one of the stubbornly stupid. You're thread question is the clearest question that your chess ability is extremely weak.  Your responses equally so and your knowledge of even the most basic topics that have been discussed here non-existent. So, you enter the realm of cowards and fools and decide to be critical of that which is irrelevant. People here have basically only tried to help you but in the world of pearls  and swine, guess what you're the swine. Good work.   Eegads. You are making me sick.

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Shakaali wrote:
polydiatonic wrote:
K vs K +B = DRAW

K vs K+R = WIN


Special ability like giving a chekmate against a lone king actually means very little when deciding the general relative value of pieces: just think about the fact that K vs. K+2N is a draw while K vs. K+R is a win.


That's a good point, but his question was regarding B and R, one must assume that kings will be present.   As a "A" player obviously I understand that the strength and weakness of any piece is not really measureable by "points".  Point counts are really just a way for making sure things don't get to out of balance, materially, in the hustle and bustle of the game.   In the real world of chess piece "values" are completely reflective of their role in time and space on the board (as you're K + 2knights example shows). 

I was simply trying to make an argument that this OP, a chess simpleton might understand.  Unfortunately he seems to be as dumb as bag of hammers and as stubborn as a mule. 

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davepacker wrote:
FifthDimension wrote:

@davepacker another good point. I'm too lazy to actually count the squares up. I never said I'm standing up for bishops, but what about 2 bishops vs. 2 rooks?


Are you talking about same or opposite color bishops?

 

 

which one?


It is impossible to checkmate with two (or any number) of bishops that are on the same color and a king.

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I prefer bishop