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paper_llama
Deadmanparty wrote:

Yeah, just like people who commit suicide take their actions seriously.

First of all, exactly 0% of people who have successfully committed suicide later regretted it.

Secondly, yeah, it's taken pretty fking seriously. There are entire support systems for these people... just as there are for people thinking of transitioning. If you think a kid walks into a hospital on day 1 and walks out with surgery you've been partaking in too much propaganda.

Aeacb_7221
#5, if someone would want that, they should go to a lunatic asylum. If a doctor were to perform that surgery, he should be removed from his job. A doctor's job is to improve the patients health, not destroy it.
Deadmanparty
paper_llama wrote:
Deadmanparty wrote:

Yeah, just like people who commit suicide take their actions seriously.

First of all, exactly 0% of people who have successfully committed suicide later regretted it.

Secondly, yeah, it's taken pretty fking seriously. There are entire support systems for these people... just as there are for people thinking of transitioning. If you think a kid walks into a hospital on day 1 and walks out with surgery you've been partaking in too much propaganda.

So you are a proponent of suicide.

Eldred_Woodcock
Deadmanparty wrote:
paper_llama wrote:
Deadmanparty wrote:

Yeah, just like people who commit suicide take their actions seriously.

First of all, exactly 0% of people who have successfully committed suicide later regretted it.

Secondly, yeah, it's taken pretty fking seriously. There are entire support systems for these people... just as there are for people thinking of transitioning. If you think a kid walks into a hospital on day 1 and walks out with surgery you've been partaking in too much propaganda.

So you are a proponent of suicide.

I don't understand this leap of reasoning. I guess we read different things.

Deadmanparty

Why not commit suicide, nobody ever regretted it.

DelightfulLiberty
Deadmanparty wrote:

Why not commit suicide, nobody ever regretted it.

On a chess forum where many teens likely post and read. Bruh.

Eldred_Woodcock
Deadmanparty wrote:

Why not commit suicide, nobody ever regretted it.

I understood what you meant. My response to your post was also a message to llama.

paper_llama
Deadmanparty wrote:
paper_llama wrote:
Deadmanparty wrote:

Yeah, just like people who commit suicide take their actions seriously.

First of all, exactly 0% of people who have successfully committed suicide later regretted it.

Secondly, yeah, it's taken pretty fking seriously. There are entire support systems for these people... just as there are for people thinking of transitioning. If you think a kid walks into a hospital on day 1 and walks out with surgery you've been partaking in too much propaganda.

So you are a proponent of suicide.

Yes, and I'm also a proponent of collecting human legs after cutting them off for no reason (just read the previous comments).

I'm glad you're able to keep up with the conversation.

Eldred_Woodcock

Alright, I can no longer resist. It looks like nobody got Eugene. This looks like the appropriate time for this.

idilis
Deadmanparty wrote:

Why not commit suicide, nobody ever regretted it.

Does the lack of regret drive your choices?

idilis
Eldred_Woodcock wrote:

Alright, I can no longer resist. It looks like nobody got Eugene. This looks like the appropriate time for this.

Guessing a lot of us did but sometimes we forget to say so. The problem with non verbal communication is that we forget to turn the smile on our faces into a smiley on the post. So here goes.

idilis
paper_llama wrote:

Come on guys, who among us doesn't have a human leg collection? Let's stop pretending this is a real question.

I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours. I could even give you a leg up.

Thinking of diversifying into ears. So lend me your ears. While you're at it, give me a hand.

paper_llama
Eldred_Woodcock wrote:
Deadmanparty wrote:

Why not commit suicide, nobody ever regretted it.

I understood what you meant. My response to your post was also a message to llama.

Ok so I guess I have to explain it really slowly...

OP claimed the choice of gender reassignment is bad because it's regretted by a non-zero number of people.

I pointed out this is a poor argument since for any choice a non-zero number of people will regret it.

OP countered that gender reassignment is not given due consideration considering how life altering it is.

I pointed out that it's taken very seriously.

OP manufactured the strawman that my claim is therefore any decision taken seriously is a good one and used argument ad absurdum via suicide.

I pointed out that suicide is also taken very seriously by society, not even addressing the fallacious reasoning.

Since OP can't follow a line of reasoning, only riffing on the last thing said, his next argument chose to emphasize my joke... this whole topic is a joke, and the kids / dumb people can't even keep up.

Here, let me help you dum dums. "I claim that 90% of gender dysphoria cases are resolved without hormones or surgery [insert citation here]. I believe the remaining 10% do not constitute a separate group requiring a different approach [insert some light evidence here] and therefore I claim the 10% of cases that involve permanent changes are poor decisions that people and society will later regret [ideally, insert statistic, not a single story here]

paper_llama
idilis wrote:
Deadmanparty wrote:

Why not commit suicide, nobody ever regretted it.

Does the lack of regret drive your choices?

Seems like a reasonable criterion for the vast majority of cases.

Eldred_Woodcock

Wait, what?

My response was that I didn't understand Deadmanparty's leap of reasoning from your declaring people indeed took suicide seriously to him declaring you advocated suicide, in a sense agreeing with you. I see no logical steps between those two declarations.

paper_llama
Eldred_Woodcock wrote:

My response to your post was also a message to llama.

Oh, I guess I should read that post because it's "also a message to [me]"

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Eldred_Woodcock wrote:

I don't understand this leap of reasoning. I guess we read different things.

Oh, he doesn't understand my reasoning, I guess I should explain it.

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Eldred_Woodcock wrote:

Wait, what?

My response was that I didn't understand Deadmanparty's leap of reasoning

Fine with me, but I'm getting mixed messages.

paper_llama

Sure, makes sense, and we agree thumbup

Deadmanparty

He said nobody regretted committing suicide.

Why not if you don't regret it?

Deadmanparty
paper_llama wrote:
Deadmanparty wrote:

He said nobody regretted committing suicide.

Why not if you don't regret it?

Because the base premise of suicide is things will never get better, but with help from others things will definitely get better.

The base assumption of getting sterilized is that you will never want a child.

With help from others you can want to have a family or at the least be happy with yourself.

paper_llama
Deadmanparty wrote:
paper_llama wrote:
Deadmanparty wrote:

He said nobody regretted committing suicide.

Why not if you don't regret it?

Because the base premise of suicide is things will never get better, but with help from others things will definitely get better.

The base assumption of getting sterilized is that you will never want a child.

With help from others you can want to have a family or at the least be happy with yourself.

lol

There are plenty of normal people who don't want kids, and there are plenty of people who adopt. You're not thinking things through, you're just riffing on the last thing said... it's not interesting talking to you, so I think I'm done now.

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