Cats Vs Dogs

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superportal wrote:

Cats are better than dogs!

You're right. Dogs taste too gamey.

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varelse1 wrote:
Ethanchock7 wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
NoahdeAlwis wrote:
Ethanchock7 wrote:
NoahdeAlwis wrote:
Ethanchock7 wrote:
BishopTARDIS wrote:
superportal wrote:

cats claw dogs faces off. PTHBPTHBPTHB

Cat breaks off claw in dog's forehead and runs off and hides under the bed for two days. Dog didn't even notice the claw stuck in her forehead.

Cats fight literal SNAKES

dogs do as well, a month ago my dog killed a snake

Did your dog simultaneously hold off 3 coyotes as well?

and when was the last time your cat killed a snake? or thought off 3 coyotes?

also it would be physically impossible for my dog to fight coyotes, as they dont exist here

Only 3?????

Most dogs would consider that light work.

The week off, even.

Call me back when you cat takes on 11!

Ok, so a dog fought off 4 times the coyotes and got 4 times as injured (I verified, he was "gravely injured" following this event.). Also, 30 minutes?? If either side was serious about their business, it would have ended much quicker. As a direct counter: Cats could have done the same if given the chance, and finished the fight faster. With superior reflexes and reaction time (cats have a reaction time at around 20-70 milliseconds, while dogs are at around 100-200 milliseconds), not to mention superior tactics and speed, the cat could easily respond to strikes with dodges and counters, and hone on their jumping abilities to get at the coyote's neck. Here's what happened with the dog, versus how a fight like this with a cat would work out: Dog: Barks, growls, and charges, using force and indirectness as opposed to speed and precision (this is likely why the fight took so long). Focuses on bite strength and brute force, opening up windows for counterattacks on the coyote's part. Is also highly predictable. Cat: uses speed, agility, and reaction time to swiftly defend from attacks. Is highly volatile and unpredictable, while dogs are typically more predictable. Focuses on psychological warfare and unexpected moves, overwhelming the opponents and decreasing fight length. Runs, jumps, twists, and flings itself at coyotes with high precision and flexibility, landing blows and leaping back before the coyote can respond. Continues psychological warfare (e.g. sudden movement, fast movement, jumping, unpredictability), ultimately leaving all the opponents very injured and very scared.

Conclusion: A dog fighting is loud, aggressive, and highly predictable, but a cat is highly unpredictable, more accurate, better reflexed, and more resistant to counterattacks.

The cat got 3 wounded. Zero kills.

The dog got 3 wounded. 8 kills.

8 coyotes who will not be back, to harass the herd again.

The cat didn't have to kill. That's the thing with dogs. They are overly focused on killing the opponent, one at a time. This is highly inefficient. Cats focus on injuring the enemy enough so that it runs away or sustains critical injury (rendering it unable to defend itself further). They will only kill if the coyote keeps fighting, and they will keep fighting all three of them simultaneously until they all sustain fatal injuries. A cat won't charge at one at a time. That, which dogs do, will just increase injury as now you've let your guard down against all the other coyotes. Besides, the coyotes ran away before the cat could kill them.

The cat fought off 3 coyotes with no injuries sustained. The ratio of the coyotes' total weight to the cat's weight is about 6:1 at minimum and 7:1 at maximum.

Casper the dog fought off 11 coyotes with near life-threatening injuries. The ratio of the weight of the coyotes to Casper's weight is 2:1 at minimum and 3:1 at maximum.

To sum it up, an untrained housecat fought off three coyotes at 6-7 times his weight with no injuries. A massive, fight-trained dog nearly died fighting coyotes 2-3 times his weight.

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Let's not forget those countless stories of burglars befriending dogs to break into their houses.

Just a few of them:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/burglar-takes-break-from-robbing-home-cozy-up-with-overly-friendly-family-dog

A burglary suspect stopped robbing a bicycle to pet a family dog that wanted belly rubs from him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PLblIJQiQ

A dog greets a burglar at the door of his home.

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Dogs are better
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Ethanchock7 wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
Ethanchock7 wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
NoahdeAlwis wrote:
Ethanchock7 wrote:
NoahdeAlwis wrote:
Ethanchock7 wrote:
BishopTARDIS wrote:
superportal wrote:

cats claw dogs faces off. PTHBPTHBPTHB

Cat breaks off claw in dog's forehead and runs off and hides under the bed for two days. Dog didn't even notice the claw stuck in her forehead.

Cats fight literal SNAKES

dogs do as well, a month ago my dog killed a snake

Did your dog simultaneously hold off 3 coyotes as well?

and when was the last time your cat killed a snake? or thought off 3 coyotes?

also it would be physically impossible for my dog to fight coyotes, as they dont exist here

Only 3?????

Most dogs would consider that light work.

The week off, even.

Call me back when you cat takes on 11!

Ok, so a dog fought off 4 times the coyotes and got 4 times as injured (I verified, he was "gravely injured" following this event.). Also, 30 minutes?? If either side was serious about their business, it would have ended much quicker. As a direct counter: Cats could have done the same if given the chance, and finished the fight faster. With superior reflexes and reaction time (cats have a reaction time at around 20-70 milliseconds, while dogs are at around 100-200 milliseconds), not to mention superior tactics and speed, the cat could easily respond to strikes with dodges and counters, and hone on their jumping abilities to get at the coyote's neck. Here's what happened with the dog, versus how a fight like this with a cat would work out: Dog: Barks, growls, and charges, using force and indirectness as opposed to speed and precision (this is likely why the fight took so long). Focuses on bite strength and brute force, opening up windows for counterattacks on the coyote's part. Is also highly predictable. Cat: uses speed, agility, and reaction time to swiftly defend from attacks. Is highly volatile and unpredictable, while dogs are typically more predictable. Focuses on psychological warfare and unexpected moves, overwhelming the opponents and decreasing fight length. Runs, jumps, twists, and flings itself at coyotes with high precision and flexibility, landing blows and leaping back before the coyote can respond. Continues psychological warfare (e.g. sudden movement, fast movement, jumping, unpredictability), ultimately leaving all the opponents very injured and very scared.

Conclusion: A dog fighting is loud, aggressive, and highly predictable, but a cat is highly unpredictable, more accurate, better reflexed, and more resistant to counterattacks.

The cat got 3 wounded. Zero kills.

The dog got 3 wounded. 8 kills.

8 coyotes who will not be back, to harass the herd again.

The cat didn't have to kill. That's the thing with dogs. They are overly focused on killing the opponent, one at a time. This is highly inefficient. Cats focus on injuring the enemy enough so that it runs away or sustains critical injury (rendering it unable to defend itself further). They will only kill if the coyote keeps fighting, and they will keep fighting all three of them simultaneously until they all sustain fatal injuries. A cat won't charge at one at a time. That, which dogs do, will just increase injury as now you've let your guard down against all the other coyotes. Besides, the coyotes ran away before the cat could kill them.

The cat fought off 3 coyotes with no injuries sustained. The ratio of the coyotes' total weight to the cat's weight is about 6:1 at minimum and 7:1 at maximum.

Casper the dog fought off 11 coyotes with near life-threatening injuries. The ratio of the weight of the coyotes to Casper's weight is 2:1 at minimum and 3:1 at maximum.

To sum it up, an untrained housecat fought off three coyotes at 6-7 times his weight with no injuries. A massive, fight-trained dog nearly died fighting coyotes 2-3 times his weight.

A wounded coyote can heal, come back, and attack the herd again. A dead one cannot.

And 8 dead ones certainly cannot.

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#386
Ok?
Cats can do the same dang thing
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I prefer ravens
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Bth of them are cute
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varelse1 wrote:
Ethanchock7 wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
Ethanchock7 wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
NoahdeAlwis wrote:
Ethanchock7 wrote:
NoahdeAlwis wrote:
Ethanchock7 wrote:
BishopTARDIS wrote:
superportal wrote:

cats claw dogs faces off. PTHBPTHBPTHB

Cat breaks off claw in dog's forehead and runs off and hides under the bed for two days. Dog didn't even notice the claw stuck in her forehead.

Cats fight literal SNAKES

dogs do as well, a month ago my dog killed a snake

Did your dog simultaneously hold off 3 coyotes as well?

and when was the last time your cat killed a snake? or thought off 3 coyotes?

also it would be physically impossible for my dog to fight coyotes, as they dont exist here

Only 3?????

Most dogs would consider that light work.

The week off, even.

Call me back when you cat takes on 11!

Ok, so a dog fought off 4 times the coyotes and got 4 times as injured (I verified, he was "gravely injured" following this event.). Also, 30 minutes?? If either side was serious about their business, it would have ended much quicker. As a direct counter: Cats could have done the same if given the chance, and finished the fight faster. With superior reflexes and reaction time (cats have a reaction time at around 20-70 milliseconds, while dogs are at around 100-200 milliseconds), not to mention superior tactics and speed, the cat could easily respond to strikes with dodges and counters, and hone on their jumping abilities to get at the coyote's neck. Here's what happened with the dog, versus how a fight like this with a cat would work out: Dog: Barks, growls, and charges, using force and indirectness as opposed to speed and precision (this is likely why the fight took so long). Focuses on bite strength and brute force, opening up windows for counterattacks on the coyote's part. Is also highly predictable. Cat: uses speed, agility, and reaction time to swiftly defend from attacks. Is highly volatile and unpredictable, while dogs are typically more predictable. Focuses on psychological warfare and unexpected moves, overwhelming the opponents and decreasing fight length. Runs, jumps, twists, and flings itself at coyotes with high precision and flexibility, landing blows and leaping back before the coyote can respond. Continues psychological warfare (e.g. sudden movement, fast movement, jumping, unpredictability), ultimately leaving all the opponents very injured and very scared.

Conclusion: A dog fighting is loud, aggressive, and highly predictable, but a cat is highly unpredictable, more accurate, better reflexed, and more resistant to counterattacks.

The cat got 3 wounded. Zero kills.

The dog got 3 wounded. 8 kills.

8 coyotes who will not be back, to harass the herd again.

The cat didn't have to kill. That's the thing with dogs. They are overly focused on killing the opponent, one at a time. This is highly inefficient. Cats focus on injuring the enemy enough so that it runs away or sustains critical injury (rendering it unable to defend itself further). They will only kill if the coyote keeps fighting, and they will keep fighting all three of them simultaneously until they all sustain fatal injuries. A cat won't charge at one at a time. That, which dogs do, will just increase injury as now you've let your guard down against all the other coyotes. Besides, the coyotes ran away before the cat could kill them.

The cat fought off 3 coyotes with no injuries sustained. The ratio of the coyotes' total weight to the cat's weight is about 6:1 at minimum and 7:1 at maximum.

Casper the dog fought off 11 coyotes with near life-threatening injuries. The ratio of the weight of the coyotes to Casper's weight is 2:1 at minimum and 3:1 at maximum.

To sum it up, an untrained housecat fought off three coyotes at 6-7 times his weight with no injuries. A massive, fight-trained dog nearly died fighting coyotes 2-3 times his weight.

A wounded coyote can heal, come back, and attack the herd again. A dead one cannot.

And 8 dead ones certainly cannot.

First of all, the cat would, if given the chance, kill the coyote if it doesn't run away, it's just that the cat would mortally wound all the coyotes evenly. Sure, it would take more time than a dog killing one, but remember, this leaves all the other coyotes completely fine and the dog defenseless against them. The cat wounds them all just enough for them to run away (coyotes have to be pretty injured to run away), and coyotes that run away likely won't come back (see bottom note). So even if some aren't killed, they will receive permanently disabling injuries, allowing the cat to kill them all unhindered, if the coyotes don't retreat. In Casper the dog's situation, the coyotes were persistent, and if you swapped Casper with a cat, the cat would have injured all the coyotes with devastating wounds and likely killed most of them.

In conclusion,

Dog: 8 coyotes dead. 3 with minor, recoverable injuries if any.

vs.

Cat: 11 coyotes with their fighting abilities permanently stripped, rendering them useless and defenseless, also possibly most dead.

Also, may I mention that a coyote's inherent psychological instincts would make it nearly impossible to have the same coyote attack once again after being injured significantly. Coyotes tend to steer clear of messing with animals or locations where they had been injured, and prefer to find safer locations.

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i cant even bother to eat- i mean read these long comments its so time consumingggg

no i did not eat a clock...

cats. just cats r better ok?

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 Chessweguess wrote:

i cant even bother to eat- i mean read these long comments its so time consumingggg

no i did not eat a clock...

cats. just cats r better ok?

haha... yes, this discussion has gotten quite long.

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Ethanchock7 wrote:
 Chessweguess wrote:

i cant even bother to eat- i mean read these long comments its so time consumingggg

no i did not eat a clock...

cats. just cats r better ok?

haha... yes, this discussion has gotten quite long.

lol

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dogs:
- stronger
- slower
- more brute force

Cats:
- Faster
- Smarter (unless its orange)
- Weaker
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i actually do have a question

who ould win...a wolf or a lion over a fight????

team lions anyone?

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BlueHairedFemboy13 wrote:
dogs:
- stronger
- slower
- more brute force
Cats:
- Faster
- Smarter (unless its orange)
- Weaker

so a medium sized cat is gonna lose over a fight over a chiwawa

chihuaaua

chihuahua

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#400 what environment are they in?
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Chessweguess wrote:

i actually do have a question

who ould win...a wolf or a lion over a fight????

team lions anyone?

Obviously lions. Big cats are the strongest predators ever to roam the earth, and I don't expect them to stop with this generation (generation as in modern big cats). They dominated the Ice Age and will continue to this day.

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Chessweguess wrote:
BlueHairedFemboy13 wrote:
dogs:
- stronger
- slower
- more brute force
Cats:
- Faster
- Smarter (unless its orange)
- Weaker

so a medium sized cat is gonna lose over a fight over a chiwawa

chihuaaua

chihuahua

No. Cats have better reflexes, reaction time, speed, agility, claw sharpness, coordination, unpredictability, and instincts than dogs.

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Ethanchock7 wrote:
Chessweguess wrote:
BlueHairedFemboy13 wrote:
dogs:
- stronger
- slower
- more brute force
Cats:
- Faster
- Smarter (unless its orange)
- Weaker

so a medium sized cat is gonna lose over a fight over a chiwawa

chihuaaua

chihuahua

No. Cats have better reflexes, reaction time, speed, agility, claw sharpness, coordination, unpredictability, and instincts than dogs.

exactly

so cats