CELEBRATING THE NEW YEAR ! 🙀

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rychessmaster1 wrote:



A. It’s RCM1
   B. I don’t actually mean it lol

Lol okay.... if it’s RCM1 hopefully you can alter your one time username then so that would be known. 😂

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Chebyshevv wrote:

A strangely negative post for a holiday.

"Fireworks cost too much, what about homeless people"

What are you, 12 years old?

What’s negative and strange such a member respecting the less fortunate, seriously???

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I guess you mean what's offputting about a member being aware of (or calling attention to) less fortunate people.

Well sure, that's fine, but saying common holiday activities are silly because homeless people exist? It's all very silly. It's not being aware or anything.

People spend less than 1% of their income on something like fireworks and alcohol (I hope lol). So if you take that money away not only do you not make a dent in starving / homeless people's lives, but you take away the very positive and natural and human activity of celebration for its own sake. It's a once a year holiday. Saying "oh, but think of the starving people" is, frankly, stupid, and smacks of being contentious for the sake of it.

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What??

dude... that person who posted that was just realizing the absurdity wasting so much damn money on something that could go to such better causes, yo.

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TheBestBeer_Root wrote:

What??

dude... that person who posted that was just realizing the absurdity wasting so much damn money on something that could go to such better cause, yo.

If you compare the amount of money you'd realize there's nothing absurd about it.

Might be a symptom of the OP being ignorant of basic maths.

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For example another poster posted about firing bullets into the air.

The terminal velocity of  (most common) falling bullet can't kill people.

So that's being ignorant of basic physics.

The whole topic comes off as childish and silly.

But I guess because I feel that way I shouldn't post here, and just let you people hate holidays in peace tongue.png

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mbereobong wrote:

As mentioned, it’s not as bad as the senseless killings of innocent people in war... Of course, I’m not trying to say that there isn’t any consequences, I’m just saying it’s not as bad as it could be. But can you believe this: “Americans spend more than $1 billion on fireworks each year, according to the American Pyrotechnics Association”. (https://fortune.com/2018/06/29/july-4th-fireworks-billion-dollar-burn-injuries/)

@Chebyshevv

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How a bout hating the word and it’s meaning hate?happy.png

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TheBestBeer_Root wrote:
mbereobong wrote:

As mentioned, it’s not as bad as the senseless killings of innocent people in war... Of course, I’m not trying to say that there isn’t any consequences, I’m just saying it’s not as bad as it could be. But can you believe this: “Americans spend more than $1 billion on fireworks each year, according to the American Pyrotechnics Association”. (https://fortune.com/2018/06/29/july-4th-fireworks-billion-dollar-burn-injuries/)

@Chebyshevv

Ok, now lets do math at the level of a 10 year old.

A quick Google for homeless people in the United States throw the number 500 000 at me.

So a billion dollars is enough to give each of those people $2000.

That wouldn't pay for property insurance and property tax much less buy a house.

I understand that a lot of money is wasted, and that we could do better as a society to re-direct that money towards less fortunate people... but fireworks? Really? It's just stupid.

The only reason that's a headline is people think to themselves "oh, one billion, that's a big number, ooh, ahh, I'm an idiot who didn't pass math class" because when you put it into perspective a billion a year isn't much... not to mention that celebration on holidays is natural and healthy for a society.

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I say had this world never the pathetic development of money to begin with there would’ve been so much never to have been caused, such as no wars, racism, homelessness, etc. etc. etc. etc., and what’s terribly sad it has separated us to recognize our connectedness as FAMILY, Of Life. Had we began no barter system and worked for each other no one ever would have been without, and we totally would be far more advanced a civilization than our present sadness BECAUSE such captivity it certainly has shackled many who each day dive into some dumpster to find what’s salvageable to digest or stay warm and dry during some evening rainstorm for rest.

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TheBestBeer_Root wrote:

I say had this world never the pathetic development of money to begin with there would’ve been so much never to have been caused, such as no wars, racism, homelessness, etc. etc. etc. etc., and what’s terribly sad it has separated us to recognize our connectedness as FAMILY, Of Life. Had we began no barter system and worked for each other no one ever would have been without, and we totally would be far more advanced a civilization than our present sadness BECAUSE such captivity it certainly has shackled many who each day dive into some dumpster to find what’s salvageable to digest or stay warm and dry during some evening rainstorm for rest.

I don't know if that's true. I don't know enough about psychology and sociology to even guess what the development of civilization would look like without bartering or money.

I will say that nature tends towards the path of least resistance. I can only assume bartering and currency arose out of convenience, and a completely different system wouldn't work nearly as well.

As for being advanced, it depends on the word. I think certainly we would be much less technologically advanced. Wars and other hard conditions spur invention, but certainly we can come up with all sorts of criteria for what's advanced. If you asked 1000 people what it means "to live a good life" I'd guess zero would mention technology happy.png

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But you say that beCAUse you’re so accustomed to such it’s shackleness I’m wishing you to recognize it has caused.

 

Think when you were a little lad and your Mom yelled outside to you saying come in for the dinner that’s on the table. You never heard, I hope, your Mom tell you tonight’s cost is $8 or $10, now, did you... Absolutely not. Of course your Dad and Mom had to support (because such development) the family to be able to place such on the table to fill your belly, but had there never been this miserable system it would be ask and receive, as well by now considering as long as there has been crappy @ money we would be probably easily manifesting our desires since the wholesome and far better morales than present or throughout all of history has known, and even our transportation easily teletransporting because our much advanced understanding and using of our intelligence that we all were born with and not what some damn iq stupid set up ‘claims’ of one. Of course going on the premise you believing in who created you to BE God, of course. Infinite Intelligence 

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I guess what I'd say it boils down to is that people don't naturally form groups as large as the societies we have today.

Well, ok, obviously they do, but what I mean is our natural behaviors aren't ideal. So we come up with e.g. currency to solve practical problems like how can I compel someone who doesn't care about me to spend their time and energy on me (whether I want medicine from a doctor or a chair from a carpenter).

I guess what I'm saying is you can remove money, but you can't remove human nature.

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I’m saying had there never been money the human nature you have only known would be far better and advanced beyond I’m sure what’s presently fathomed, considering how long we have been developed such acceptance it’s stupid control that only has many doing very sadly less fortune’d with.

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I’m sorry but money is pathetic

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woollensock wrote:
Millions are spent on fireworks, the world over , which cause untold damage not only to property, but also injuries to people and animals. On top of all this , there’s the unnecessary burden for the climate, this is just so ludicrous, it’s unbelievable that this is all done as a celebration ! 🙀

Not only that, there are a bunch of idiots shooting bullets at the sky and causing property damage.cry.png

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TheBestBeer_Root wrote:

I’m saying had there never been money the human nature you have only known would be far better and advanced beyond I’m sure what’s presently fathomed, considering how long we have been developed such acceptance it’s stupid control that only has many doing very sadly less fortune’d with.

I guess it's nice to think that people are basically good and money corrupts them, and sure, money makes people act badly, but I don't have such a positive view of human nature. I think it was flawed from the beginning, way before money.

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We don’t want to debate the direction this is going because the rules Erik made as to what’s best possible to respectfully please his multi millions of members. There is though chat, and I’m for that.

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Yeah, well, it was nice chatting with you though happy.png