Chess.com vs lichess.org

i rather take this as preference, its not showing something as better but a belief

cause whats the point in chatting? the reason for them not having an engine when spectating a game is that it basically ruins the whole purpose of viewing it. you arent supposed to have a eval bar and instantly say "ah gotcha black is -2 so he will win" that ruins the fun. you dont need lots of chat boxes and lichess has the spectator room which is fine but again there is more to the site itself rather than being "boards and pieces" 

I assume you have abandoned your claim. 

1. lichess profile, click games it shows the opening name 

2. go to analysis and click the little circle option and as you scroll through the first few moves, it scans the position and automatically tells you what opening it is

it becomes the better option due to the aspect that its pool is slightly more competitive and the site itself has a marketing job, lichess doesnt go for any of that. they arent here to promote themselves and automatically say "hey we are free come here everyone so we beat chess.com" thats not what they do. as you saw in the site i posted the strength can equal out and personally both sites are amazing, even many chess.com streamers use to play there

your missing the point which i stated earlier, it ruins the theme of spectating a game. think about it your in a OTB event and you are witnessing idk a blitz OTB game between two strong players and everyone is around the table. you wont have a engine to tell you what to do, thats what makes spectating fascinating as you just have to actually think and try to imagine what the players themselves are calculating, having a engine just ruins that meaning

you dont know how it goes or where it will go, it just happens and analysis happens later

I sure do. Don’t make unsupported claims. 

How do you measure the toughness of the playing pool?

On Lichess, a larger percentage of members are rated higher than me. That seems tough.

On chessdotcom, the number of members who are rated higher than me is greater. That is also tough.

Which is tougher?

An 1800 player on Lichess is as strong as a 1200 on chessdotcom. Is that the measure employed to assert that chessdotcom is tougher? 

i mean censorship on its own of any kind mean we need a wide range of options online in the chess world and yeh that goes for every site. transparency on SOME levels is good. like Kowarenai says other sites are providing a different interface / experience.

having immature people who were treated rudely by one or more admins somewhere else in chess land (or, vice versa!) and now can't stop throwing their toys out the cot ... well c.c might feel that they deserve one thread (this one) to make c.c look at it's best but with any censorship it can't be fully - well all sides of the debate can't be fully developed. so it's always going to have an element of backfiring no matter how it is handled by OD mods, fait accompli. so i'm not trying to hassle this stance as such i'm just trying to point out they are guided by strict policy probably based on legal advice.

so i know this is the direction of the contractual law / copyright of intellectual property future but we don't have to roll over and keep everythign so separate and partisan all the time.

nearly all completely partisan black / white opinions in life always seem to end up being wrong sooner rather than later.

Once again, the rating systems are different. You cannot prove the player pool is ‘massively better’. True, Diamond membership unlocks features Lichess doesn’t have. Interface is a matter of taste. 

Also I have to tell you, people that love their own posts in the way that YOU do are going to lose a lot of respect. You put a love teddybear on this one? smh in disbelief.

I like the teddy bare tbh

Dang 😰. I wanna eat some of that premium goodness

I cannot laugh as hard as this nonsense provokes. My blood pressure medicine is not a high enough dosage.

Sometimes you hit the mark. Sometimes you shoot in the wrong direction. You are the child in this exchange.

Yet why are you trying to act like you’re any better than Precision? That post shows some of what you are describing.

was just having a conversation. I don’t know why the “you’re such a child” card has to be played everytime.

mate, you love up your own posts with different emojis ALL the time, and everyone that responds positively to them.

what's a carebear anyway? just looks like a softtoy loving it's own perpetual posting circle to me.

sorry i'm not UP with softtoys holding hearts to themselves!

I have nothing against you personally was just trying to give you some feedback on you self promoting your own posts. it's a really bad look to anyone that is not an expert on carebears? idfk.

however back to your actual argument without having to get distracted by softtoys. i actually find your posts in this thread on the whole, way more immature than my own. i am not sure if you are really DOWN with how many great young players think lichess is good / a good alternative to c.c at least some of the time.

i was trying to show that both these sites are not exactly competing for the same space, but i might now have to add that i don't think  you are doing chess.com that many favours in this thread. you are trying to stoke some fight that barely exists, imo. are you going to get a free diamond out of it? i doubt it.

*has already been gifted a diamond year by chess.com and has a lot of love for chess.com*