Climate Change = Huge Hoax 2 (STRICTLY no personal attacks, religion, or politics)

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Optimissed wrote:

I'm sorry but I'm afraid I'm not getting much sense out of your rejoinder. I can't see an argument in it.

In the UK we have quite well-defined seasons, with the period of cold weather being called Winter. If we lived on the equator, there would be no big seasonal temperature variation but there would be patterns of winds and rains that didn't make a "Winter" so much as a rainy season.

You don't speak for the UK, which has the same definitions of meteorological and astronomical winter that I already outlined.

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So your just posting to delete........that makes sense. meh

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EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Winter Should be Considered December 1st - March 31st

Spring: April and May

Summer: June, July, and August

Fall: September, October, and November.

As usual, your ideas are ridiculous. The 4 seasons divide the year into equal quarters. The primary driver is astronomical, not meteorological.

The fact that you want to call 4 months of the year winter by stealing a month from spring just shows the bias that fuels all your diatribes on climate.

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Endgame will be complaining Sunday. The remnants of the storm that hit Portland & Seattle will be in New York Sunday.

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EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

The timing of my deletions is usually after someone has replied to the post, (meaning it is now visible in quotes so the post no longer needs to exist), or at the end of the day before I got to sleep. Go back and try to find even one of my posts in this thread. I'm surprised in all your infinite wisdom you couldn't even discern that pattern by now.

That is historically false. If you are deleting posts daily at this point, it is only recent, and your decision to delete during the day as an exception still shows exactly what I posited.

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87654321 wrote:
Elroch wrote:

... ....

  1. "an orderly and just phase-out"
  2. "accelerating efforts towards phasing out unabated fossil fuels"

We've rehearsed these arguments oft enough.

1. Impractical with the existing technology levels of the intermittents,

Why? Are you going to regurgitate 20th century renewable prices for the hundredth time?

In 2022, 5/6 (83%) of all new generating capacity was renewable, with solar and wind accounting for a remarkable 90% of the new renewable capacity, easily dominating hydro and others. It was a record increase, with a new 295 GW. Merely continuation of this rate of increase would provide every human with over 20 kWh of renewable energy per day in the long term, more than the whole of the world excepting the high income countries consume in total at present.

But the rate of expansion is clearly going to accelerate.

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Optimissed wrote:

Sillver, have you ever heard The Incredible String Band? Or maybe John Fahey, an American folk guitarist? Or perhaps The Young Tradition ... an English folk group which sang often unaccompianied in plainsong and were the best Sea Shanty people of the 1970s? Done completely authentically and superbly. I believe no-one has done them better since.

This is a song by the Incredible String Band. Used to make me and my brother crack up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf4LpllNOuo&list=PLkkVhQpGemX4ZrqoiQ1_pCR8VyCpiXEA7&index=9&pp=iAQB8AUB

John Fahey was a huge influence on my early years of guitar playing. His end of life days and death were tragic. We lived in the same town for a time and i heard the many sad stories of his later years.

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Sillver1 wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
Sillver1 wrote:

‘I checked online and Smoke on the Water apparently was recorded in 71. In 73 they released some live albums.’

make sense. so i was probably forced to listen to it as an infant.. lol

I was never forced to listen to Deep Purple and I always managed to avoid it.

we’re from a different generation and culture, so it must ring differently to us. to be frank.. smoke on the water always related with bongs for me.. lol. you know.. just the obvious. but let’s take a fresh look at the lyrics..

I think it was a fire in a casino, over a lake in Switzerland or something. Just going by first impressions, Roger Glover didn't seem to me like a stoner.

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Wits-end wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

Sillver, have you ever heard The Incredible String Band? Or maybe John Fahey, an American folk guitarist? Or perhaps The Young Tradition ... an English folk group which sang often unaccompianied in plainsong and were the best Sea Shanty people of the 1970s? Done completely authentically and superbly. I believe no-one has done them better since.

This is a song by the Incredible String Band. Used to make me and my brother crack up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf4LpllNOuo&list=PLkkVhQpGemX4ZrqoiQ1_pCR8VyCpiXEA7&index=9&pp=iAQB8AUB

John Fahey was a huge influence on my early years of guitar playing. His end of life days and death were tragic. We lived in the same town for a time and i heard the many sad stories of his later years.

I'll google it. Sounds like my brother's later years.

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DiogenesDue wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

I'm sorry but I'm afraid I'm not getting much sense out of your rejoinder. I can't see an argument in it.

In the UK we have quite well-defined seasons, with the period of cold weather being called Winter. If we lived on the equator, there would be no big seasonal temperature variation but there would be patterns of winds and rains that didn't make a "Winter" so much as a rainy season.

You don't speak for the UK, which has the same definitions of meteorological and astronomical winter that I already outlined.

I actually do speak for the UK. The people living in the UK can't help it if a few weathermen prefer to stick to a meaningless definition which is preferred by a few nerds to make themselves feel good, or special, instead of sticking to the traditionally defined ideas. I'm afraid I disagree with you. Ultimately, it's just an argument from authority. I'm not getting at you in particular but it's an arbitrary definition which has no bearing on reality. It's perhaps similar to the confusion between 12 pm and 12 am. Midnight is logically 12 pm, since there can't be a miraculous flip one micro-second before midnight in a process that is obviously counting to 12. Then it starts again, counting to 12 noon. It's normally accepted that the "correct" way of defining it is logically wrong and was the result of some kind of logical error by someone or other, which wasn't picked up on and challenged. Probably the Americans again. They're always getting things the wrong way round. happy.png

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Optimissed wrote:

It begins here when the weather gets cold and never after 1st December. There's nothing about the Winter Solstice that means the beginning of Winter and also you or someone may have got them the wrong way round, because that doesn't make sense for a country that gets cold in Winter. Very often, our Winter starts in November.

Believe it or not temperatures in your small neighborhood in Northern England do not determine when winter begins for the entire northern hemisphere.

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Optimissed wrote:

I actually do speak for the UK. The people living in the UK can't help it if a few weathermen prefer to stick to a meaningless definition which is preferred by a few nerds to make themselves feel good, or special, instead of sticking to the traditionally defined ideas. I'm afraid I disagree with you. Ultimately, it's just an argument from authority. I'm not getting at you in particular but it's an arbitrary definition which has no bearing on reality. It's perhaps similar to the confusion between 12 pm and 12 am. Midnight is logically 12 pm, since there can't be a miraculous flip one micro-second before midnight in a process that is obviously counting to 12. Then it starts again, counting to 12 noon. It's normally accepted that the "correct" way of defining it is logically wrong and was the result of some kind of logical error by someone or other, which wasn't picked up on and challenged. Probably the Americans again. They're always getting things the wrong way round.

It's not a "few weathermen". The UK played a significant role in forming both the WMO in 1950 and the IAU in 1919.

Somebody who lives only a few hours from Greenwich should probably not be under the impression that "the Americans" decided how AM and PM works.

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EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

I've been doing it for months. Ask Wolfbird. Ask anyone in the Open Discussion club. Want me to post other links to thread with my posts only remaining in quotes?

I don't care what you do in OD. Your assertion that you have been deleting all your posts on a daily basis for "months" or that this is historically what you have always done is false. If it were true, multiple posters would not have made comments specifically pointing out individual instances of your paranoid practice at the time they took place.

I don't really care much what you do here, either...but I will call out disingenuous motives when they present themselves.

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EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Check out the topics I have started in the regular forums. You will see I have almost no posts left. I don't delete chess content but I delete most of me controversial off topic posts for privacy reasons. It just takes a while when you have 30,000 posts.

That is not what you claimed, though. You said you delete them every night and have been doing so consistently for months...which would not be worth commenting on if you hadn't tried to pretend I was deficient somehow for not noticing your (falsified) behavior.

Backtrack away.

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mpaetz wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

It begins here when the weather gets cold and never after 1st December. There's nothing about the Winter Solstice that means the beginning of Winter and also you or someone may have got them the wrong way round, because that doesn't make sense for a country that gets cold in Winter. Very often, our Winter starts in November.

Believe it or not temperatures in your small neighborhood in Northern England do not determine when winter begins for the entire northern hemisphere.

You're another one who doesn't understand what I'm saying.

While we were washing the dishes, I asked Christine, since she's a psychologist and everything, if she asked ten people in the streets when Winter begins, what they'd say. She said that they'd say Winter's here.

That means that Winter begins when the Wintry weather begins. That's how real people think, who are programmed by custom, tradition and COMMON SENSE! happy.png And not by dimwits and nerds. sad.png

Nerds and dimwits, come away;

Nerds and dimwits, come away;

Nerds and dimwits, come away, come away, come come come away!

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EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

You really are losing your sanity.

Now now.

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Optimissed wrote:

You're another one who doesn't understand what I'm saying.

While we were washing the dishes, I asked Christine, since she's a psychologist and everything, if she asked ten people in the streets when Winter begins, what they'd say. She said that they'd say Winter's here.

That means that Winter begins when the Wintry weather begins. That's how real people think, who are programmed by custom, tradition and COMMON SENSE! And not by dimwits and nerds.

Nerds and dimwits, come away;

Nerds and dimwits, come away;

Nerds and dimwits, come away, come away, come come come away!

Your logic skills could use some work. What you said doesn't follow. What your wife said is meaningless...what ten average but imaginary people in your neighborhood think is also meaningless.

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Optimissed wrote:
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

You really are losing your sanity.

Now now.

I'll let the made up "nerds and dimwits" song you posted speak for itself.

Let me also state up front that Abyssal will do nothing, again.

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I believe I should spell it out. I was hoping that great intellects such as yourself and mpaetz would get it.

What you're claiming is, in fact, that there are two conceptual entities, both called "Winter", which are defined differently from one-another. Firstly, there's that which is defined by some scientific body or other. Now it should be obvious that since that counts as received knowledge, it wouldn't be a good idea to break away from that useage in a scientific context, especially regarding meteorology.

Secondly, there's the normal useage. A village one mile North of the Equator, in Africa, is in the Northern Hemisphere. They don't HAVE Winters. For those that have Winters, Winter comes when it comes. Simple as that.

You are not talking about the same entity as I'm discussing. That is logically true.

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If you say so.........You forgot to mention the rain & the wind.

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