Climate Change = Huge Hoax 2 (STRICTLY no personal attacks, religion, or politics)

Things I believe are false:

• Storms increasing in severity due to increase in temperature
• Ocean levels will rise 60-200ft if all ice melts
• A mere .1 degree increase will have catastrophic effects
• A mere .1 degree increase over the course of 100 years is urgent
• Humans are a direct cause of Climate Change

Things I believe are true:

• Climate change is real and has been real for millions of years

Disclaimer: I do not think Climate Change is a hoax. I had no idea what to call this thread, so I just went with the name of the original thread.

Also of note is that you will have one warning, and one warning only, if you:

• Insult or harass others
• Discuss politics
• Discuss religion 

I believe, since you live in Florida and are only 13, that you are going to come to regret your beliefs in the coming decades. Hopefully your grandkids don't hunt you down or anything for ruining their lives.

I'm tossing you a bone here to get you jumpstarted. Thanks for detracting from Endgame's thread, much appreciated.

Did you not see Hurricane Katrina, almost 20 years ago? Hurricanes have generally remained the same severity, with a few outliers.

I haven’t detracted from Endgame’s thread, just started my own.

Also, we’ll see about that lol.

There is a limit to the severity of these hurricanes. My point is, storm severity has not increased.

Hi, you know you can work out for yourself the effect of melting ice on the level of the oceans. I did so in Endgame's threads and I got the same answer as the "experts".

Let's say it's about Antarctica. You need:
area of Antarctica

% of it covered in ice

average thickness of ice
total area of the world's oceans.
To be impressively accurate you could also use:
Specific density of ice

compressibility of compacted snow/ice as in Antarctica. However, they won't make a vast difference to the answer but that is checkable if you have the figures.

60-200ft is still absurd. I seriously doubt ocean levels would rise that much.

Even if they would, we’d be doomed anyways, we can’t stop ice from melting, it has to eventually.

Also, I’d like to take the time to say this:

Since temperatures are rising 0.1 degrees every 100 years, and Antarctica is below 50 degrees, that means it would take an increase in temperature of 82 degrees. An increase of 82 degrees given the current rate of increase would be this:

82^1000=82000

Thats 82,000 years for Antarctica to begin melting.

Absurd or not, if all the ice on antarctica melts it raises the level by 60 feet. I made it fractionally over 60 feet. You would need to check it first, before reaching any conclusions regarding its absurdity. You've seen in the other thread how the climate change activists tend to think with their emotions rather than with their brains but that isn't something that's good to do. Don't be scared that if you find out the truth and it turns out to be different from your existing idea that would be bad for you. It doesn't mean that you'd have to make immediate changes to how you act or whom you sympathise with in these discussions. Just be yourself and be happy. Like you said, if we're doomed, there isn;t any point getting too upset and it could turn out not as bad as we think.

It won't necessarily be a linear change though, because it can be a bit like compound interest in that some small change creates different conditions that increase the rate of melting and so on.

My wife has commanded me to pay her some attention. I hope this thread works out for you and you learn more than you would in the other thread. It's definitely best to have zero tolerance for insulting behaviour, which can only divert people's attention from what;s important.

Even then, it would have to be increasing it’s rate extremely rapidly to even have an effect fairly soon.

Welllllllll...no.

The temperature has risen 1.17'F since the 1970, which would be a rate of about 2.3'F per century...I say "would be" because the rate of temperature rise is actually increasing.

That's just the very first sentence...if you correct for this, then people can talk about what's wrong with the rest of your calculation.

In March of this year, for example, temperatures in the Antarctic spiked to 5'F. So you actually only have 25 degrees to play with before melting can happen. That's issue #2, which already cuts you from 82,000 years to 1,100 years (2.3F per century). But again, that temperature rise is increasing in speed. There's more considerations for Antarctica, but also consider...that's only for Antarctica the "safest" ice cap on Earth. The Greenland ice shelf is already melting, *right now*. The Northwest passage no longer requires icebreakers much of the time and various countries are arguing about who will own the shipping lanes, etc.

Finally, you don't need 200ft to cause devastating damage...10ft will do it. That loosely knocks your back of the envelope 82,000 years calculation to 55 years, and I have only applied 3 factors.

2.3/0.1=23

23x the original number.

82,000/23=3,565.2

3,565.2 years is still a lot of time.