Climate Change = Huge Hoax 2 (STRICTLY no personal attacks, religion, or politics)

Obviously, it's Cobra, the most ruthless snake-themed terrorist organization this side of Hydra.

I think I already pointed out that the manufacture of all internal combustion engines for transport systems needs to be completely phased out across the World, unless they devise an effective means for hydrogen burning engines and a clean way of producing hydrogen. I think that's more important than the complete banning of fossil fuels, which would be impractical in any case. Anyone with access to coal will be able to burn it and the major problem is internal combustion engines which have no good purpose that can't be duplicated without burning hydrocarbons.

The best way to tackle it is without doubt at source, by depriving people of the means to burn oils in vehicles. It seems to me that standing engines are not so important, since it's easier to introduce proper filtering systems for standing engines (and there are less of them). I would like to see a complete, Worldwide ban on the production of i.c.e. for vehicles by 2040. Of course, it won't happen. The "me me me! crowd" will win and it's messy to have to shoot them all. It can stain people's carpets.

I was never forced to listen to Deep Purple and I always managed to avoid it.

You didn't miss much.

Sillver, have you ever heard The Incredible String Band? Or maybe John Fahey, an American folk guitarist? Or perhaps The Young Tradition ... an English folk group which sang often unaccompianied in plainsong and were the best Sea Shanty people of the 1970s? Done completely authentically and superbly. I believe no-one has done them better since.

This is a song by the Incredible String Band. Used to make me and my brother crack up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf4LpllNOuo&list=PLkkVhQpGemX4ZrqoiQ1_pCR8VyCpiXEA7&index=9&pp=iAQB8AUB

Groups or bands like Led Zeppelin and so on were considered great. The Beatles are considered by many to be great. Manfred Mann, The Rolling Stones and the Animals, in their different genres of jazz (Manfred Mann) rhythm and blues (Rolling Stones) and American blues (the Animals) may not be surpassed. In my opinion there has been virtually nothing, no new music of note, since the early 1980s. Maybe 1983 and then it started to go sour, with endless repetitions of the same. The greatest acts, in my belief, included the Jimi Hendrix Experience, which was a British band that brought the flavour of America and presented it in a way that it hadn't been presented and nor will be presented again. Love was the band that the Doors were trying to emulate and "be as good as". I liked other American acts, such as Captain Beefheart. Janis Joplin in small doses, Grace Slick. The greatest American group, in my estimation, was Velvet Underground. I have all their albums but the greatest was the black one ... Velvet Underground Velvet Underground.

I've said this as a counterpoint because for me, the greatest rock acts were both British. Pink Floyd up to but not including Dark Side of the Moon (at that point they sold out ... "went over to the dark side"). And Fairport Convention.

Sandy Denny sang, before she died in an accident. Dave Swarbrick violin but Richard Thompson on lead guitar for Fairport Convention was considered by many professional guitarists to be the greatest and best lead guitar player of all. And I do like Eric Clapton but Thompson was so tight and accurate. He was thought to be nearly perfect. This is a song about a great Lord who, finding his wife to have been unfaithful on his return, killed both her lover and his wife. A simple song and a simple story but the song is split into two halves. The simplistic song leads into an ecstatic instrumental where we can hear Thompson on lead playing some of the music which made his name among the cognescenti, accompanied by Swarbrick on violin. I was listening to this sort of thing when others listened to Deep Purple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtVkYMFueWs

we’re from a different generation and culture, so it must ring differently to us. to be frank.. smoke on the water always related with bongs for me.. lol. you know.. just the obvious. but let’s take a fresh look at the lyrics..

Lyrics
 
We all came out to Montreux
On the Lake Geneva shoreline
To make records with a mobile, yeah
We didn't have much time now
Frank Zappa and the Mothers
Were at the best place around
But some stupid with a flare gun
Burned the place to the ground
Smoke on the water, a fire in the sky
(Smoke) on the water, you guys are great
They burned down the gambling house
It died with an awful sound
Funky Claude was running in and out
He was pulling kids out the ground now
When it all was over
Find another place
Swiss time was running out
It seemed that we would lose the race
Smoke on the water, a fire in the sky
Smoke on the water
Burn it down
We ended up at the Grand Hotel
It was empty, cold and bare
The Rolling truck Stones thing just outside
Huh, making our music there now
With a few red lights and a few old beds
We made a place to sweat
No matter what we get out of this
I know, I know we'll never forget
Smoke on the water, a fire in the sky
Smoke on the water
(I can't hear anything)
one more time
(Smoke on the water) hey!

Tam Lin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47z5n7p9B3I&pp=ygUHVGFtIExpbg%3D%3D

They don't make comparisons to tenths of a degree that far back. This is just your usual baseless and illogical dismissal of anything that refutes your opinions.

kinda heavy on me right now. landing from jimmy showing off with some stray cats he picked up..

https://youtu.be/g4pFtFtXdzk?si=DzF6tSo-1dFk4VHc

For you, perhaps. Meteorological winter was adjusted backwards a month to cover the coldest months. The solstice represents the start of astronomical winter. While the solstice represents the longest night of the year, it does not represent the middle of the coldest months, because there is a lag in the hemisphere losing heat.

I often just answer your posts first, because they are simplistic and easy to refute in a shorter timeframe. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You're pretty blind much of time, as you are here. The implication that the report is worthless because temps from long ago have to be derived rather than measured is misleading/false, because all the temps in the report are direct measurements, and you already know that. I refuted that implication, so this post is also misleading/false.

If you want to know why I jump on your posts more often, it's not because I am obsessed with you...you could cease to exist tomorrow and I wouldn't care...but you do post a lot of basic material that is perfect for making an example of to teach others. That's about as nicely as that can be put...

*Edit* - You obviously agree, as you have just gone on another post deletion spree...

I was never sure what they were doing or why they wanted something like Winter to be so precise. I can't think of any reason why the period between the Winter Solstice and the Spring Equinox should be designated "Winter". There isn't any logic to it, regarding the UK.

The coldest time in the UK is probably the period from the Winter Solstice to mid January, although sometimes we get the very cold weather in November. It may be because the climate here is governed more by a maritime weather system. Areas of low pressure over the North Atlantic can be very unstable and it doesn't take much of a variation in the position of a cyclone to reverse the wind direction and have it coming from due North instead of from the South West, which is probably the most common type of weather here .... dominated by South-Westerly winds which bring fairly warm, wet winds from the Caribbean.

All in all, it may be that it's "more normal" for a more stable climatic region like the USA to designate Winter as starting in late December. It doesn't work at all for the UK, however.

It's early December and we're getting temperatures of minus 10.

We've rehearsed these arguments oft enough.

1. Impractical with the existing technology levels of the intermittents, and not to mention all those pesky fossil fuel hungry liberals out there.

2. As 1.

You are conflating cold weather and the human defined construct that is called winter, which includes cold weather, but is not driven by it. Kind of like equating Santa and Jesus because they intersect at Xmas...

If a volcano erupted in Scotland and blanketed the UK with ash for weeks, and temps dropped to zero in October, would you say winter therefore began in October?

The reason for having set seasons historically is pretty clear. How would the Farmer's Almanac look with variable start times for various locales?

I'm sorry but I'm afraid I'm not getting much sense out of your rejoinder. I can't see an argument in it.

In the UK we have quite well-defined seasons, with the period of cold weather being called Winter. If we lived on the equator, there would be no big seasonal temperature variation but there would be patterns of winds and rains that didn't make a "Winter" so much as a rainy season.

Winter Should be Considered December 1st - March 31st

Spring: April and May

Summer: June, July, and August

Fall: September, October, and November.

The historical trend of the timing of your deletions says otherwise. It's especially hypocritical given how you attack Fester for his self-imposed "vacations", then pretend your deletions are anything more than you getting into a snit.

Fanatic, by definition, would fall on you, being the one with the marginal beliefs that the majority (70%+, even in the US with so many people like you around) do not consider reasonable.