dbeleiu wrote:
Lol other than the fact of sin and no one other than God has ever been perfect? Maybe you need more evidence?
You’re putting the cart way before the horse. What evidence do you have that the god you believe in exists?
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SoulMate333 wrote:
Well certainly its true that all have sinned.. whether you believe in God or not is up to you.
“Sin” is a religious concept. There must be a god who’s rules were violated to constitute an action being a “sin.”
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
dbeleiu wrote:
Lol other than the fact of sin and no one other than God has ever been perfect? Maybe you need more evidence?
You’re putting the cart way before the horse. What evidence do you have that the god you believe in exists?
We don’t. That’s why it’s religion, and not science. It’s based off of BELIEF.
Aug 16, 2019
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#265
hitthepin wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
dbeleiu wrote:
Lol other than the fact of sin and no one other than God has ever been perfect? Maybe you need more evidence?
You’re putting the cart way before the horse. What evidence do you have that the god you believe in exists?
We don’t. That’s why it’s religion, and not science. It’s based off of BELIEF.
That’s perfectly fine if all someone is asserting is that the Bible makes claims.
Manatini wrote:
dbeleiu wrote:
Lol other than the fact of sin and no one other than God has ever been perfect?
So, ok, you're 10 years old right? That's what you're trying to tell me?
It's fine, I juts don't know how I feel about being the one to tell you how Santa isn't real and all that.
God is real. You can't prove he's not
Manatini wrote:
dbeleiu wrote:
Lol other than the fact of sin and no one other than God has ever been perfect?
So, ok, you're 10 years old right? That's what you're trying to tell me?
It's fine, I juts don't know how I feel about being the one to tell you how Santa isn't real and all that.
just because he's ten doesn't mean he's wrong
he's giving better arguments than you are
Wow this grew fast
It’s true the Bible has ways of defending itself, like how many witnesses appear in Acts that all that Jesus did was true.
Regarding the discussion about the original sin a few pages back, I think some of you don not fully understand the event. Adam and Eve did not just decide to eat a fruit from a random tree. They were basically provided with unlimited access to the vast expanse of the Garden of Eden, except for the fruit of 1 tree. Yet they overlooked their blessings and decided to disobey their creator. This is not 'incredibly minor'
The analogy of telling a child not to eat a sweet is invalid here. Instead, try giving a child the choice of an unlimited supply of sweets, cakes, etc, as a symbol of your love for that child (as a parent) and then say but you can't have this particular one or you will be punished. What do you think the child will choose?
If the child somehow makes the wrong decision on this easy choice, even with the temptation of a stranger (referencing the devil here), then the child undermines the love that his/her parent has for him/her and does not deserve.
#389
Dead wrong.
In virtually ALL the minor prophets, God promises salvation and restoration at the end! The world doesn’t tell you the whole story! There is a reason for Jesus!
Or sent my son to die for sinners. God is very merciful
Amos 9:11
In that day I will restore David’s shelter
I will repair its broken walls and restore its ruins
And will rebuild it as it used to be.
9:14a
And I will bring my people Israel back from exile.
HolographWars wrote:
#389
Dead wrong.
In virtually ALL the minor prophets, God promises salvation and restoration at the end! The world doesn’t tell you the whole story! There is a reason for Jesus!
Manatini wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:
Or sent my son to die for sinners. God is very merciful
Jesus did not die. He was dead for only 3 days.
Jesus only gave up one weekend for your sins.
I'm not impressed.
My goodness, Jesus resurrected to consolidate the fact that he in fact the Son of God. There were still many disbelievers. If the man who was supposed to bring about salvation and claimed to be Son of God died, without any retaliation, at the hands of men, in the most severe punishment for a criminal at the time, wouldn't it be thought by many that he was wasting everyone's time? Despite the multitude of miracles that he performed
Torture?
TORTURE???????????
I would like a verse.
Unfollowing? Wow. Bye.
Manatini wrote:
GRANDMASTER_100 wrote:
Despite the multitude of miracles that he performed
Miracles?
Jesus made what? One blind man see?
Google "blind man sees for the first time"
Science cures more people every hour of every day than Jesus did in his whole lifetime.
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Um... Jesus cured lepers and even resurrected someone from the dead! Can any doctor raise someone from the dead? (And there are witnesses in history to prove that.)
Manatini wrote:
HolographWars wrote:
Torture?
TORTURE???????????
I would like a verse.
I'm not going to educate you on your own religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinners_in_the_Hands_of_an_Angry_God
And Like I said, I'm unfollowing for now.
Hell is real indeed.
I don’t see the point.And threading to leave again.
Lol other than the fact of sin and no one other than God has ever been perfect? Maybe you need more evidence?