Ginarook wrote:
This is silly isn't it lol, it never ever gets anywhere does it ?
Time to leave it be I think
Well, it can’t be determined for sure, but we can get close as possible as humans.
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And the premise works because there is evidence that God loves us
dbeleiu wrote:
And the premise works because there is evidence that God loves us
but the conclusion 'therefore there should be no evil in the world' doesn't follow from the premise
Aug 16, 2019
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#165
dbeleiu wrote:
And the premise works because there is evidence that God loves us
You probably start with evidence that a god even exists.
@kgollamudi
Poverty hunger and war and all these terrible things exist because God also keeps His promises. At the beginning there was a contract between God and humanity. God would give us everything but one tree. Should we follow God He will keep us in paradise but if we decide to disobey and thus reject God He would punish us by taking the paradise away from us because He can’t stand sin.
Poverty hunger and war and all these terrible things exist because God also keeps His promises. At the beginning there was a contract between God and humanity. God would give us everything but one tree. Should we follow God He will keep us in paradise but if we decide to disobey and thus reject God He would punish us by taking the paradise away from us because He can’t stand sin.
dbeleiu wrote:
@kgollamudi
Poverty hunger and war and all these terrible things exist because God also keeps His promises. At the beginning there was a contract between God and humanity. God would give us everything but one tree. Should we follow God He will keep us in paradise but if we decide to disobey and thus reject God He would punish us by taking the paradise away from us because He can’t stand sin.
Poverty hunger and war and all these terrible things exist because God also keeps His promises. At the beginning there was a contract between God and humanity. God would give us everything but one tree. Should we follow God He will keep us in paradise but if we decide to disobey and thus reject God He would punish us by taking the paradise away from us because He can’t stand sin.
more or less, yes. We brought it upon ourselves.
Aug 16, 2019
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#168
dbeleiu wrote:
@army paratrooper
The difference is the terms. One term should not be used to describe someone in that way. The word eternal in the context which it should be used in is not interchangeable with infinite.
The difference is the terms. One term should not be used to describe someone in that way. The word eternal in the context which it should be used in is not interchangeable with infinite.
Nonsense. Define both words.
Aug 16, 2019
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#169
dbeleiu wrote:
@kgollamudi
Poverty hunger and war and all these terrible things exist because God also keeps His promises. At the beginning there was a contract between God and humanity. God would give us everything but one tree. Should we follow God He will keep us in paradise but if we decide to disobey and thus reject God He would punish us by taking the paradise away from us because He can’t stand sin.
Poverty hunger and war and all these terrible things exist because God also keeps His promises. At the beginning there was a contract between God and humanity. God would give us everything but one tree. Should we follow God He will keep us in paradise but if we decide to disobey and thus reject God He would punish us by taking the paradise away from us because He can’t stand sin.
So basically, everyone who does suffer deserves to because two people who lived thousands of years ago ate an apple?
God cannot tolerate sin, or just 'let it go'. It would be against His perfect nature.
My premise wasn’t that there is no evil in the world, but that God does not want evil for us. In short God did not make this world for evil we just chose to have it that way. @jaredjm
gingerninja2003 wrote:
dbeleiu wrote:
@kgollamudi
Poverty hunger and war and all these terrible things exist because God also keeps His promises. At the beginning there was a contract between God and humanity. God would give us everything but one tree. Should we follow God He will keep us in paradise but if we decide to disobey and thus reject God He would punish us by taking the paradise away from us because He can’t stand sin.
Poverty hunger and war and all these terrible things exist because God also keeps His promises. At the beginning there was a contract between God and humanity. God would give us everything but one tree. Should we follow God He will keep us in paradise but if we decide to disobey and thus reject God He would punish us by taking the paradise away from us because He can’t stand sin.
So basically, everyone who does suffer deserves to because two people who lived thousands of years ago ate an apple?
Everyone else has sinned too.
Aug 16, 2019
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#174
If god exists, is omnipotent, and cares if we believe he exists, why doesn’t he just convince us?
See ya Gina! It was interesting to discuss with you👍
@USarmy paratrooper
Because God doesn’t want the love of robots. God wants us to choose to love Him not be forced by Him to love Him.
Because God doesn’t want the love of robots. God wants us to choose to love Him not be forced by Him to love Him.
Aug 16, 2019
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#177
jaredjm wrote:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
dbeleiu wrote:
@kgollamudi
Poverty hunger and war and all these terrible things exist because God also keeps His promises. At the beginning there was a contract between God and humanity. God would give us everything but one tree. Should we follow God He will keep us in paradise but if we decide to disobey and thus reject God He would punish us by taking the paradise away from us because He can’t stand sin.
Poverty hunger and war and all these terrible things exist because God also keeps His promises. At the beginning there was a contract between God and humanity. God would give us everything but one tree. Should we follow God He will keep us in paradise but if we decide to disobey and thus reject God He would punish us by taking the paradise away from us because He can’t stand sin.
So basically, everyone who does suffer deserves to because two people who lived thousands of years ago ate an apple?
Everyone else has sinned too.
How do you know? What crime has everyone committed?
Aug 16, 2019
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#178
jaredjm wrote:
God cannot tolerate sin, or just 'let it go'. It would be against His perfect nature.
Perfection is sacrificing himself, to himself, as a loophole so he doesn’t have to punish us for violating rules that he made?
gingerninja2003 wrote:
jaredjm wrote:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
dbeleiu wrote:
@kgollamudi
Poverty hunger and war and all these terrible things exist because God also keeps His promises. At the beginning there was a contract between God and humanity. God would give us everything but one tree. Should we follow God He will keep us in paradise but if we decide to disobey and thus reject God He would punish us by taking the paradise away from us because He can’t stand sin.
Poverty hunger and war and all these terrible things exist because God also keeps His promises. At the beginning there was a contract between God and humanity. God would give us everything but one tree. Should we follow God He will keep us in paradise but if we decide to disobey and thus reject God He would punish us by taking the paradise away from us because He can’t stand sin.
So basically, everyone who does suffer deserves to because two people who lived thousands of years ago ate an apple?
Everyone else has sinned too.
How do you know? What crime has everyone committed?
Um, it's quite obvious. Would you seriously ask me to believe that you (or anyone) has lived a completely perfect life?
Some of it, have you read any book about Logical fallacies ? the Fallacy Detective is also very good
I've read that
I have too