Covid-19 Discussion (moderated)

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DiogenesDue
Itude wrote:

Good point, all that is needed is one vaccination resistant one...then we are all back to square one

Rare ???? yeah, till it happens

Yes, that's why "vaccine hesitancy", aka being a dillweed wink.png, is so dangerous.  It keeps the virus running around the world endlessly with the odds of eventual mutations increasing with each extra day the virus is unchecked.

I was actually thinking this week about how the world should just hold a 2 week complete self-isolation period which would take huge bite out the pandemic.  Then rinse and repeat ever few years.  You could actually make a big dent in lots of transmissible viruses this way.  The more that population density increases, the more that this kind of measure will eventually become a necessity.

People seem to think the virus just sits around on a shelf waiting to pounce...no, it needs to transmit host to host to survive.  All that has to happen for the virus to be gone is for people to *stop spreading it around*.  But it would have to be everyone at once.  No science deniers waving their Bill of Rights around at the virus...

power_9_the_people

Very true . The Bill of Rights isn't going to solve any of the problems brought about by this pandemic.  But Pew research has found good understanding in the American population: They have found 77% of Americans think vaccine will be good for the economy.  https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2021/03/05/growing-share-of-americans-say-they-plan-to-get-a-covid-19-vaccine-or-already-have/

Compared to Brazil, where the thinking is more like " the measures against Covid-19 hurts the economy " 

Woollensock2

I can’t understand why people in many European countries, are starting to be so rebellious against the lockdown situation in their country. They want the restrictions  eased, which to me seems like utter madness. Can’t these people realize, these restrictions are put in place , for their own protection. 

power_9_the_people

I cannot understand why my response was not fit for the community guidelines, but whatever.... Let's say there are some problems.

power_9_the_people

Anyway, those are serious issues . For us, let's remember the basics:

CDC Says You No Longer Need to Do These Things After Vaccination (msn.com)

“If it has been less than 2 weeks since your shot, or if you still need to get your second dose, you are NOT fully protected. Keep taking all prevention steps until you are fully vaccinated,”

 

XxDarkKnight402xX

What we are experiencing is a big chunk of the world population having a flawed belief system, where one thinks society should go 100 percent back to normal since the "at-risk" groups are starting to be vaccinated. 

The reason this line of thought is flawed is since covid is part of the coronaviridae family of viruses, meaning it contains the biggest RNA genome out of all human viruses. This means that mutations will be very common, which will lead to more and more variants. We are already starting to see the effects of variants, and we are barely rolling out vaccines for the original covid-19 strains. Our current vaccines may soon become ineffective against a novel covid-19 variant, in which case we would be left without an effective vaccine once again momentarily. Our Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were made to swiftly adapt to a new variant, but this does not mean the change will happen immediately....I fear that many more will die needlessly as a result of our inability to adapt to our new reality.

It is entirely possible to wipe this virus from the face of the planet, but do we collectively have the willpower to do it? Only time will tell...

XxDarkKnight402xX
power_9_the_people wrote:

Anyway, those are serious issues . For us, let's remember the basics:

CDC Says You No Longer Need to Do These Things After Vaccination (msn.com)

“If it has been less than 2 weeks since your shot, or if you still need to get your second dose, you are NOT fully protected. Keep taking all prevention steps until you are fully vaccinated,”

 

Just to be clear wearing of a mask and social distancing should still be proper etiquette in public unless in private with other fully vaccinated peeps, in which case it should be ok to unmask and not social distance.

DiogenesDue
Itude wrote:

If the world had taken a 2-6 week total antivirus behavioural stance about a year ago, it would have been well gone by now.

But it wont, its far too fractured for that to ever happen.

Maybe an Alien invasion is the only thing which will make that happen.

Then we can all be nasty to them instead of ourselves, animals and the planet.

Yes, I said 2 weeks mainly because I don't think people around the world would do anything more than that even if you threw them in jail for a year for not complying wink.png.  But a month would be better.  Then repeat a month every 5 years or so to kill off various viruses that are making the rounds...  

DiogenesDue
Itude wrote:

I didn't think it was fair that people that got blocked here would now end up being blocked from talking about Covid-19 completely.  So I cleared the block list.  That being said...everyone should know it in advance now, and if you get re-blocked, that's on you .

No it isn't, its on both the person who gets blocked..and you.

It takes two to tango in this thing.

You are free to feel that way whether you are blocked or not wink.png.  I'm just letting everyone know what's going to happen when people decide to poke the guidelines to assert their entitlement...I won't be dancing around with anyone; I'll be warning, then blocking.

power_9_the_people

 

Waiting is the hardest part: A year into the pandemic, COVID fatigue has given way to vaccine envy (msn.com)

A year into the pandemic, fatigue has given way to envy. In Germany, it’s known as impfneid, envy of those who have been vaccinated.

MycLeJean
Itude wrote:

Ah well, you know who has wormed out as ever, so better get back to business then eh ?

Here is that article for discussion

Does Pfizer vaccine cause blood clots? Surprising results in study - so why is AZ banned? THE PFIZER vaccine is one of many COVID-19 immunisations which has recently been approved for use as the UK's vaccine rollout continues. But does the Pfizer vaccine cause blood clots?

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1410702/does-Pfizer-vaccine-cause-blood-clots-EVG

OMG!

It looks almost like a war between the UK and the EU. How could this mistrust of AstraZeneca vaccine be EU´s conspiracy against the UK? AstraZeneca is a British and Swedish Company…

RonaldJosephCote

   In an ideal world I would agree with you but the're protesting the restrictions in France, & Miami Beach this past week...meh.png

RonaldJosephCote

   For everyone who's had their 1st or 2nd shot......they probably gave you a card?  Its IMPORTANT that you keep that card in your wallet. You're probably gonna need it to get on a plane, or a boat, or enter a Federal building, or any number of issues in the coming future. surprise.png

RonaldJosephCote

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/hang-covid-19-vaccination-card-120615150.html   Staples is doing a promotion...... they will laminate your vaccine card for free.....offer ends May 1st.   

DiogenesDue
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/hang-covid-19-vaccination-card-120615150.html   Staples is doing a promotion...... they will laminate your vaccine card for free.....offer ends May 1st.   

Awesome.  It won't fit in your wallet if you laminate, though, it's larger than credit card size.  Just FYI.

Woollensock2
With the EU it’s just a case of “ Sour Grapes “ The companies that are supplying the vaccine too the UK are simple fulfilling their contracts
dora8835

OMG, (xD)surprise.png

power_9_the_people

Truly not a one-sided issue. There are Asians being ''targeted'' because people think 2020 was their fault. The good news is, following social psychology research, there are a few science-backed ways you can reduce hatred and division, if anyone is interested

https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/why_are_asian_americans_being_attacked_and_what_can_you_do_about_it

power_9_the_people

I think if you want to talk about ''autocracy'' it then becomes political. But maybe it's just me, but autocracy is opposed to ''democracy,'' which is a relevant keyword if politics is your thing and you 're thinking about Googling something tonight or tomorrow in the morning or whenever you feel like it

DiogenesDue
Itude wrote:

Nah lets not bother with the political bit then

Needs a separate thread of its own.

Excellent idea wink.png.

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