Covid-19 Discussion (moderated)

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IMKeto

What gets me is that there are so many people that feel nothing is as important as their individual rights.  I imagine the reason for getting vaccinated vary.  But I would also like to think that at some point those same people will think about the impact on others, and not just themselves.

IMKeto

This is precisely what happens when someone allows emotions to dictate their actions.  We are way beyond arguing over whether the virus is real or not.  We are way beyond blaming those responsible.  We are way beyond whether it was released accidentally, or on purpose.  And yet we still have people arguing politics over this.  I mean seriously.  How can anyone still be blaming the "other party" or "other country" and completely turn a blind eye to people dying, and while whining about how your "rights" are being taken away.  Maybe we deserve what we get.

IMKeto
H-i-s-t-o-r-y wrote:

I'm not one of those you describe.  My frustration is with the climate in the country, the distrust of "experts"  the constantly changing rules, and , of course, the disease itself.  

 

I was not implying i was referring to you.  My apologies for any misunderstanding.  The distrust i can most definitely understand.

IMKeto
H-i-s-t-o-r-y wrote:

lol I realize you weren't I was distancing myself

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DiogenesDue

The problem here is twofold:

Worldwide travel is much more prevalent now than, say, Spanish Flu times.  Vaccines could be administered, and they would do their jobs for months on end, and when their efficacy eventually faded, it didn't matter, because the virus was already gone.  Now, the virus spreads farther and faster, in a neverending rotation of plane flights wink.png...which makes it even more important that *everybody gets vaccinated* in *roughly the same timeframes*, so the virus will die off instead of mutating and being re-introduced over and over by Aunt Gertrude who flew in from 3,000 miles away.

But people won't vaccinate in spite of pretty much everyone having already had vaccines since childhood.  I really don't think people get how viruses work.  Individual virus cells only live a few weeks.  If you stop the spread cold for that length of time, then it's done.  If people keep futzing around, it will never be over.

 

JamieDelarosa
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

   THIS should give the un-vaccinated some incentive..lol    If you don't want the vaccine---Fine.  If you get sick....pay the entire hospitalization bill..  2 weeks on a ventilator in the I.C.U......SURE, you've got the money for that...https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/ea2f702e-6717-3aaf-9017-46b5e4031afa/don%E2%80%99t-want-the-covid-19.html   If your rights are being violated then put your money where your mouth is..... don't put MY money where your rights end.                     

Right on!

JamieDelarosa

An annual Covid-Influenza booster is a good idea, especially for those of us with chronic illnesses.

RonaldJosephCote

   If you get fired for not getting the vaccine,.....don't expect to collect unemployment....surprise.pnghttps://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/433f7e22-c13e-38cd-b6a4-e36a660d243a/if-your-employer-fires-you.html                                                                                        

IMKeto

Correct me if I'm wrong.  But i thought if you were fired, you couldn't collect unemployment?

BlindThief
IMBacon wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong.  But i thought if you were fired, you couldn't collect unemployment?

Yes and no. Unemployment is administered at the state level, despite being a federal program, so each state may differ in its qualifications (insofar as they do not contradict federal guidance). Then, I know some states will allow unemployment if terminated for good cause (as in, routine layoffs or downsizing) but not for bad (such as “smoking” in the boys room).

IMKeto
BlindThief wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong.  But i thought if you were fired, you couldn't collect unemployment?

Yes and no. Unemployment is administered at the state level, despite being a federal program, so each state may differ in its qualifications (insofar as they do not contradict federal guidance). Then, I know some states will allow unemployment if terminated for good cause (as in, routine layoffs or downsizing) but not for bad (such as “smoking” in the boys room).

Thank You. 

DiogenesDue

Yep, layoffs and downsizings are paid unemployment in every state that I know of.  Which is why so many bloated companies used layoffs instead of going through the lengthy processes of terminating individual poor employees.  Just wait 4-5 years, have a layoff, and eliminate all your poor performers at once guilt free and lawyer safe...it's pretty common.

I was asked to go through and cull X% of the worst employees a number of times, but when I would try to take action on individual poor performers it would rarely go anywhere.

I had one guy in Dallas who actually got away with claiming he was clinically depressed due to being on a performance plan, and lasted an extra year doing pretty much nothing all day while being "treated".  He was on the performance plan originally for doing nothing wink.png...so claiming he was then not able to work anymore due to the stress of being on performance plan for not doing his work was pure BS. 

HR at most large companies will do pretty much anything to avoid legal liability.

Marie-AnneLiz

Marie-AnneLiz

power_9_the_people

"Have you been vaccinated ?"

At 5:55 minutes  # 2779 Good interview with Dr Raj

Marie-AnneLiz

RonaldJosephCote

  My local news said that Canada has opened its border to fully vaccinated Americans after being closed for 18 months. The U.S.A will open its side of the border Aug 21st if all goes right.

IMKeto

Something im wondering about. 

If covid is so deadly, and I am required to wear a mask at the store, gym and church.  Why aren't players in the NFL, MLB, NHL, and Olympics required to wear masks?

I ask this because i honestly dont know the difference in mask policies.

wsswan

It is proven that masks restrict the air flow causing athletes to pass out on occasion.

IMKeto
wsswan wrote:

It is proven that masks restrict the air flow causing athletes to pass out on occasion.

But if this virus is as deadly we are lead to believe.  Then why are some allowed to not wear masks while others are told they have to to control the spread?

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