This is precisely what happens when someone allows emotions to dictate their actions. We are way beyond arguing over whether the virus is real or not. We are way beyond blaming those responsible. We are way beyond whether it was released accidentally, or on purpose. And yet we still have people arguing politics over this. I mean seriously. How can anyone still be blaming the "other party" or "other country" and completely turn a blind eye to people dying, and while whining about how your "rights" are being taken away. Maybe we deserve what we get.
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I'm not one of those you describe. My frustration is with the climate in the country, the distrust of "experts" the constantly changing rules, and , of course, the disease itself.
I was not implying i was referring to you. My apologies for any misunderstanding. The distrust i can most definitely understand.

The problem here is twofold:
Worldwide travel is much more prevalent now than, say, Spanish Flu times. Vaccines could be administered, and they would do their jobs for months on end, and when their efficacy eventually faded, it didn't matter, because the virus was already gone. Now, the virus spreads farther and faster, in a neverending rotation of plane flights ...which makes it even more important that *everybody gets vaccinated* in *roughly the same timeframes*, so the virus will die off instead of mutating and being re-introduced over and over by Aunt Gertrude who flew in from 3,000 miles away.
But people won't vaccinate in spite of pretty much everyone having already had vaccines since childhood. I really don't think people get how viruses work. Individual virus cells only live a few weeks. If you stop the spread cold for that length of time, then it's done. If people keep futzing around, it will never be over.

THIS should give the un-vaccinated some incentive..lol If you don't want the vaccine---Fine. If you get sick....pay the entire hospitalization bill.. 2 weeks on a ventilator in the I.C.U......SURE, you've got the money for that...https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/ea2f702e-6717-3aaf-9017-46b5e4031afa/don%E2%80%99t-want-the-covid-19.html If your rights are being violated then put your money where your mouth is..... don't put MY money where your rights end.
Right on!

An annual Covid-Influenza booster is a good idea, especially for those of us with chronic illnesses.

If you get fired for not getting the vaccine,.....don't expect to collect unemployment....https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/433f7e22-c13e-38cd-b6a4-e36a660d243a/if-your-employer-fires-you.html

Correct me if I'm wrong. But i thought if you were fired, you couldn't collect unemployment?
Yes and no. Unemployment is administered at the state level, despite being a federal program, so each state may differ in its qualifications (insofar as they do not contradict federal guidance). Then, I know some states will allow unemployment if terminated for good cause (as in, routine layoffs or downsizing) but not for bad (such as “smoking” in the boys room).

Correct me if I'm wrong. But i thought if you were fired, you couldn't collect unemployment?
Yes and no. Unemployment is administered at the state level, despite being a federal program, so each state may differ in its qualifications (insofar as they do not contradict federal guidance). Then, I know some states will allow unemployment if terminated for good cause (as in, routine layoffs or downsizing) but not for bad (such as “smoking” in the boys room).
Thank You.

Yep, layoffs and downsizings are paid unemployment in every state that I know of. Which is why so many bloated companies used layoffs instead of going through the lengthy processes of terminating individual poor employees. Just wait 4-5 years, have a layoff, and eliminate all your poor performers at once guilt free and lawyer safe...it's pretty common.
I was asked to go through and cull X% of the worst employees a number of times, but when I would try to take action on individual poor performers it would rarely go anywhere.
I had one guy in Dallas who actually got away with claiming he was clinically depressed due to being on a performance plan, and lasted an extra year doing pretty much nothing all day while being "treated". He was on the performance plan originally for doing nothing ...so claiming he was then not able to work anymore due to the stress of being on performance plan for not doing his work was pure BS.
HR at most large companies will do pretty much anything to avoid legal liability.

My local news said that Canada has opened its border to fully vaccinated Americans after being closed for 18 months. The U.S.A will open its side of the border Aug 21st if all goes right.
What gets me is that there are so many people that feel nothing is as important as their individual rights. I imagine the reason for getting vaccinated vary. But I would also like to think that at some point those same people will think about the impact on others, and not just themselves.