I mentioned it was just out of curiosity. It's not really off-topic. You judged not wanting a 4th dose is understandable, but then you say it doesn't take any intellectual difficulty to accept getting doses every 6 months.
After all, if it sounds like just a back and forth between two people I can delete but I don't see anything wrong with asking about somebody else's opinion on the subject.
Also "you" could refer to the plural.
but then you say it doesn't take any intellectual difficulty to accept getting doses every 6 months.
'I' did not say that.
There was a word in my post though. 'Compare'.
Surely it isn't difficult to distinguish 'compare' from 'accept' ... 'oh Dear !'
but then you say it doesn't take any intellectual difficulty to accept getting doses every 6 months.
'I' did not say that.
There was a word in my post though. 'Compare'.
Surely it isn't difficult to distinguish 'compare' from 'accept' ... 'oh Dear !'
"to combat a lethal disease that threatens potentially everybody and his brother with death and has already killed 6 million people in two years ...."
That sounds like you're talking about COVID though?
Maybe I'm missing something there.
I'm talking about Covid and this is chess.com and the month is March and water is wet.
There's always an option. The actual subject.
Many people have put off a booster. Can be discussed. Rather than 'you and me'.
I guess I could start a forum about 'me' if I chose.
But I think I would have disdain for such a thing.
I see. I apologize if I was misunderstood I just wanted to hear people's opinion on the subject in here.
I have been looking at different Facebook groups, comments, youtube comments, and irl comments from all kinds of real people. Not fishy articles, not missinformation, just a bunch of real, common people like you and me. And there's so many comments about horrible side effects from the vaccine, not just on the short term. Mid-term, even long-term. People with months of breathing issues, muscle pain, and an overall unhealthiness. And their biggest regret is to have taken the vaccine, because it was never the same after that.
So I think it's valid to be able to choose and to question what exactly is going on with those vaccines.
You cannot trust those social media because there are thousands of trolls there...one of my best friend in SF take all her info from there and she will never get the vaccine because of the info she got there.
Ten of thousands of accounts have been close on those social media because of misinformation....trolls and peoples paid by some governments or just psychological effets...
Those social medias have nothing scientific and i saw thousands lately praising Putin and they say he is a great leader and Biden is incompetent....
If you use the social media to understand what is going on in the world you will be completely confused!
One of my best friend is on face book since +10 years and he try to convince everyone that Putin is great ...he has a PhD in political science and a master in traduction....and he did study 8 years in Moscow...and he is a great musician and a good cook and a nice human being and like Putin he love dogs....
People are really irrational often....and there is nothing we can do about it...even if i argue with him often.....
I have been looking at different Facebook groups, comments, youtube comments, and irl comments from all kinds of real people. Not fishy articles, not missinformation, just a bunch of real, common people like you and me. And there's so many comments about horrible side effects from the vaccine, not just on the short term. Mid-term, even long-term. People with months of breathing issues, muscle pain, and an overall unhealthiness. And their biggest regret is to have taken the vaccine, because it was never the same after that.
So I think it's valid to be able to choose and to question what exactly is going on with those vaccines.
You cannot trust those social media because there are thousands of trolls there...one of my best friend in SF take all her info from there and she will never get the vaccine because of the info she got there.
Ten of thousands of accounts have been close on those social media because of misinformation....trolls and peoples paid by some governments or just psychological effets...
Those social medias have nothing scientific and i saw thousands lately praising Putin and they say he is a great leader and Biden is incompetent....
If you use the social media to understand what is going on in the world you will be completely confused!
One of my best friend is on facebook since +10 years and he try to convince everyone that Putin is great ...he has a PhD in political science and a master in traduction....and he did study 8 years ai Moscow...
People are really irrational often....
Listen, it is true that things on social media aren't completely correct, but it's not just about social media. ANSM in France numbers 137 000 victims of side-effects from the vaccine:
“Of the 136 million doses injected in France, there are 137,400 victims of adverse effects, i.e. a rate of 0.025%"
Medical Advisor of the COVID Cabinet at the Ministry of Health"
He also says that 24% of these side-effects are dangerous: "and it is on this proportion that we count a quarter of serious adverse effects" despite being pro-vaccine and induces the french population of taking the jab, but he had to admit it. Yes it is a low risk (24% of 0.025%), but 137 000 isn't a small number if you consider the fact that there is a non-responsibility clause in pfizer and moderna contracts https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html
(And that's not the only article on the subject they're easy to find)
With these risks of side-effects, authorities HAVE to understand people who don't want to get vaccinated. Even if there were no side-effects, it's their body afterall.
That doesn't mean much having adverse effect.....pain in an arm for 2-4 days and a bit of fever for 2 or 3 days is not anything major....
You have to be very specific about what you mean by adverse effect and why you have them...if you your immune system was already very weak you shouldn't get any vaccine! if you do well you are responsible!
According to the CDC, anyone who has a severe allergy (e.g., anaphylaxis) to any of the mRNA vaccine ingredients should not receive this vaccine. The CDC says people with allergies to certain foods, insects, latex and other common allergens can safely receive the COVID-19 vaccine. Those with a history of severe allergic reaction (anaphylaxis) to injectables or other vaccines should discuss the vaccination with their doctor, who can evaluate and assess their risk.
I have been looking at different Facebook groups, comments, youtube comments, and irl comments from all kinds of real people. Not fishy articles, not missinformation, just a bunch of real, common people like you and me. And there's so many comments about horrible side effects from the vaccine, not just on the short term. Mid-term, even long-term. People with months of breathing issues, muscle pain, and an overall unhealthiness. And their biggest regret is to have taken the vaccine, because it was never the same after that.
So I think it's valid to be able to choose and to question what exactly is going on with those vaccines.
You cannot trust those social media because there are thousands of trolls there...one of my best friend in SF take all her info from there and she will never get the vaccine because of the info she got there.
Ten of thousands of accounts have been close on those social media because of misinformation....trolls and peoples paid by some governments or just psychological effets...
Those social medias have nothing scientific and i saw thousands lately praising Putin and they say he is a great leader and Biden is incompetent....
If you use the social media to understand what is going on in the world you will be completely confused!
One of my best friend is on face book since +10 years and he try to convince everyone that Putin is great ...he has a PhD in political science and a master in traduction....and he did study 8 years in Moscow...and he is a great musician and a good cook and a nice human being and like Putin he love dogs....
People are really irrational often....and there is nothing we can do about it...even if i argue with him often.....
I don't think the 13K+ people on this twitter are trolls.
https://twitter.com/theysayitsrare
And were they healthy enough to get the vaccine or not? you don't know...
that is not scientific since thousands on other channel say that Putin is a great leader.....is it true because 13k say so? on +1 billion that got vaccine?
did you read all the 13k and are all the 13k had major problem? or only 20% plus 50% of hearsay?
Are you saying that there are no trolls? of course you have no idea of how many are 100% honest.... start one and ask how many trust Putin to be telling the truth and you will be surprised of how many are completely irrational and they will tell you all kind of story to prove their point...
Probably - 'truly severe side effects of Covid vaccination' can be googled.
Where 'severe' could mean - losing a limb - going permanently blind -
becoming paralyzed - or ... Death?'
but then - before 'panic' - that's to be compared with 'incidence per million' on other vaccinations. And medications.
Haven't there been people who got cancer from X-rays?
Some people don't wake up from general anaesthesia -
or they wake up as vegetables not vegetarians.
Is there anything in this world that isn't a Risk somehow?
Buy a car and become a driver and thereby auto passenger too ....
does the chance that you'll thus be killed or grievously injured Greatly Exceed the chance that a Covid vaccination will kill or 'damage' you ?
Probably - 'truly severe side effects of Covid vaccination' can be googled.
Where 'severe' could mean - losing a limb - going permanently blind -
becoming paralyzed - or ... Death?'
but then - before 'panic' - that's to be compared with 'incidence per million' on other vaccinations. And medications.
Haven't there been people who got cancer from X-rays?
Some people don't wake up from general anaesthesia -
or they wake up as vegetables not vegetarians.
Is there anything in this world that isn't a Risk somehow?
Buy a car and become a driver and thereby auto passenger too ....
does the chance that you'll thus be killed or grievously injured Greatly Exceed the chance that a Covid vaccination will kill or 'damage' you ?
True, everything is a risk. But some people are more likely to get an adverse side effect to the vaccine then COVID, like 100% of all healthy children ages 0-18. It doesn’t make sense to get them vaccinated when there is a higher risk of poor reaction to the vaccine then the virus. Also I’m pro choice when it comes to wether you want to get any vaccine or not
"Also I’m pro choice when it comes to wether you want to get any vaccine or not"
So am I. And over 210 of the over 220 countries of the world are pro-choice too.
Plus - regarding google ...
What are the 'real' stats on these 'adverse reactions' ?
I'm thinking its not going to be a difficult search ...
I had 2 Pfizer shots and caught some virus but I didn't test positive for Covid-19 but they said I had pneumonia. 2 weeks later I got sicker and was tested again. This time I was positive for Covid-19 and pneumonia, but I still didn't die and in a few days I'll be 71.
Between 2002 and 2007 my chest was opened 4 times, I had brain surgery, and my back was broken badly (3 surgeries). One doctor said I out lived two and a half cats. Since 2008 life has been the best ever. Oh I forgot to mention my case of rhabdomyolysis about 2014. It only lasted 6 months but I sure thought I was going to die. Maybe I'm immune now.
Does 'you' mean me ?
Its very common for people to get flu shots every year.
In various parts of the world.
And that's in a situation where the flu that is being combatted is very unlikely to kill 'you' if you get it.
So if we compare that to a situation where one is getting an annual or six-monthly vaccination to combat a lethal disease that threatens potentially everybody and his brother with death and has already killed 6 million people in two years ....
is there some kind of 'intellectual difficulty' with same?
And is it to be about me personally?
The topic is about Covid - however much one might want it to be 'you and me'.