Early in the outbreak, Trump was being told by medical experts, such as Dr. Fauci, that it was really nothing to worry about. If Senator Cotton hadn't scared Trump into restricting travel from China we would be in deeper excrement than we are even now.
I am not trying to make light of the situation, or your post. But every president is surrounded by "advisors". Sometimes the advice is good, other times, not so good.
Early in the outbreak, Trump was being told by medical experts, such as Dr. Fauci, that it was really nothing to worry about. If Senator Cotton hadn't scared Trump into restricting travel from China we would be in deeper excrement than we are even now.
I'm looking at a bunch of Dr. Fauci's statements and appearances going all the way back to Early February, and I see no evidence of him saying anything remotely like any of the comments Trump made. What I have seen is Dr. Fauci being excluded from or curtailed during many WH briefings, and his comments about it being hard to keep misinformation from spreading and his tongue in cheek comment about not being able to "tackle Trump at the podium" to keep the President from saying things that are not accurate.
Trump was more proactive than he's given credit for, regardless of what he was saying about the outbreak. Birx and Fauci were asked about the timeliness of U.S. response a couple of days ago in the task force briefing. They said something along the lines that the U.S. response was very early. I'll see if i can track down that portion of the briefing.
Well all of you stay safe. We have plenty of resources to stay locked down for months and stay safe from small organisms and 2 legged beasts.. I love the US for those freedoms.
After years of sitting under my bed. I drug out the ole xbox one, and fired it up for some video game playing.
Trump was more proactive than he's given credit for, regardless of what he was saying about the outbreak. Birx and Fauci were asked about the timeliness of U.S. response a couple of days ago in the task force briefing. They said something along the lines that the U.S. response was very early. I'll see if i can track down that portion of the briefing.
That's fine as a subthread, go for it. I don't want all of us to start getting bogged down on Trump, though. The comments early on and the relapse a week into the shutdowns with the "done by Easter" and "the cure is worse than the disease" talk kind of speak for themselves. People will believe what they want to about the statements 
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Well all of you stay safe. We have plenty of resources to stay locked down for months and stay safe from small organisms and 2 legged beasts.. I love the US for those freedoms.
I love the US for its freedoms as well. In fact, I want a bunch back that we've lost in the past 20 years .
Well all of you stay safe. We have plenty of resources to stay locked down for months and stay safe from small organisms and 2 legged beasts.. I love the US for those freedoms.
I love the US for its freedoms as well. In fact, I want a bunch back that we've lost in the past 20 years .
As sad as this has been. Hopefully we as a nation, and as a group of people learn from it. The last thing we need is to go back to how we always did things.
Early in the outbreak, Trump was being told by medical experts, such as Dr. Fauci, that it was really nothing to worry about. If Senator Cotton hadn't scared Trump into restricting travel from China we would be in deeper excrement than we are even now.
I'm looking at a bunch of Dr. Fauci's statements and appearances going all the way back to Early February, and I see no evidence of him saying anything remotely like any of the comments Trump made. What I have seen is Dr. Fauci being excluded from or curtailed during many WH briefings, and his comments about it being hard to keep misinformation from spreading and his tongue in cheek comment about not being able to "tackle Trump at the podium" to keep the President from saying things that are not accurate.
January 26,2020
"It's a very, very low risk to the United States," Fauci said during an interview with radio show host John Catsimatidis.
"The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It's a very, very low risk to the United States," Dr. Fauci said on The CATS Roundtable. "It isn't something that the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about."
January 28, 3020
ANTHONY FAUCI: Even if there is some asymptomatic transmission, in all the history of respiratory-borne viruses of any type, asymptomatic transmission has never been the driver of outbreaks. The driver of outbreaks is always a symptomatic person.
Feb 5, 2020
FAUCI: Asymptomatic transmission is not a driver of an outbreak. It may occur - and most people think it doesn't occur in a widespread way. But to whatever degree it occurs, the history of respiratory-borne illnesses say that even when there is asymptomatic transmission, asymptomatic transmission is not the main driver of the outbreak.
Feb. 5, 2020
FAUCI: It's looking more like a really bad influenza than it is a SARS-like disease.
Fauci isn't being excluded from the briefings. He is very prominent in the briefings. When he's not there, it's because he's doing some other job or the briefing has a focus outside his expertise. I've watched every minute of every briefing since they began having them.
For those sceptical of the corona virus; that is to say sceptical of the mainstream media, I invite them to join the Corona Sceptics Club on chess.com https://www.chess.com/club/the-corona-sceptics
I shan't be returning to this thread as I can stand the baa baa baa from all the sheep.
For those sceptical of the corona virus; that is to say sceptical of the mainstream media, I invite them to join the Corona Sceptics Club on chess.com https://www.chess.com/club/the-corona-sceptics
I shan't be returning to this thread as I can stand the baa baa baa from all the sheep.
Thanks. I'm sure we will all appreciate you guys sequestering yourselves.
For those sceptical of the corona virus; that is to say sceptical of the mainstream media, I invite them to join the Corona Sceptics Club on chess.com https://www.chess.com/club/the-corona-sceptics
I shan't be returning to this thread as I can stand the baa baa baa from all the sheep.
Thanks. I'm sure we will all appreciate you guys sequestering yourselves.
More online meetings...
January 26,2020
"It's a very, very low risk to the United States," Fauci said during an interview with radio show host John Catsimatidis.
"The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It's a very, very low risk to the United States," Dr. Fauci said on The CATS Roundtable. "It isn't something that the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about."
January 28, 3020
ANTHONY FAUCI: Even if there is some asymptomatic transmission, in all the history of respiratory-borne viruses of any type, asymptomatic transmission has never been the driver of outbreaks. The driver of outbreaks is always a symptomatic person.
Feb 5, 2020
FAUCI: Asymptomatic transmission is not a driver of an outbreak. It may occur - and most people think it doesn't occur in a widespread way. But to whatever degree it occurs, the history of respiratory-borne illnesses say that even when there is asymptomatic transmission, asymptomatic transmission is not the main driver of the outbreak.
Feb. 5, 2020
FAUCI: It's looking more like a really bad influenza than it is a SARS-like disease.
Point taken...but that's pretty early. January 23rd was the day Wuhan province was shut down. Once everyone started to grasp the asymptomatic transmission of the virus, I think health officials got serious extremely quickly.
Trump was more proactive than he's given credit for, regardless of what he was saying about the outbreak. Birx and Fauci were asked about the timeliness of U.S. response a couple of days ago in the task force briefing. They said something along the lines that the U.S. response was very early. I'll see if i can track down that portion of the briefing.
"done by Easter"
I remember on the other thread you sounding certain that Trump was going to drop the restrictions and open the country up on Easter. Anyone watching the briefings unbiasedly would never have gotten that impression. It was his hope and always subject to change based on the facts on the ground. Pitfalls of getting news filtered through crapaganda sources, I suppose.
I'll stop now. Don't want to derail the thread. Carry on.
Trump was more proactive than he's given credit for, regardless of what he was saying about the outbreak. Birx and Fauci were asked about the timeliness of U.S. response a couple of days ago in the task force briefing. They said something along the lines that the U.S. response was very early. I'll see if i can track down that portion of the briefing.
"done by Easter"
I remember on the other thread you sounding certain that Trump was going to drop the restrictions and open the country up on Easter. Anyone watching the briefings unbiasedly would never have gotten that impression. It was his hope and always subject to change based on the facts on the ground. Pitfalls of getting news filtered through crapagands sources, I suppose.
It's the old difference they noted during the campaign:
Liberals take him literally but not seriously
His supporters take him seriously but not literally.
For example he says lets pack the churches on Easter, and you say he didn't mean it, he's just cheerleading. Meanwhile liberals say why is a cheerleader in the quarterback position 
I'll stop now. Don't want to derail the thread. Carry on.
Yeah I guess we'd have to continue this type of discussion in private messages.
Snapshot of confirmed cases by country: April 1st 2020
THE US HAS 216,722?! WHAT!
Trump was more proactive than he's given credit for, regardless of what he was saying about the outbreak. Birx and Fauci were asked about the timeliness of U.S. response a couple of days ago in the task force briefing. They said something along the lines that the U.S. response was very early. I'll see if i can track down that portion of the briefing.
"done by Easter"
I remember on the other thread you sounding certain that Trump was going to drop the restrictions and open the country up on Easter. Anyone watching the briefings unbiasedly would never have gotten that impression. It was his hope and always subject to change based on the facts on the ground. Pitfalls of getting news filtered through crapagands sources, I suppose.
I didn't say he would drop the restrictions by Easter. In fact, I thought that reality would clearly prevent him from doing so; he would have looked insane at that point.
What I definitely did do was take a certain poster to task for saying Easter would be the turnaround point.
The time between "early in the outbreak" and a few days ago was at least 3 months.
"What he did was better than nothing" is hardly a ringing endorsement.