10 million cases in the US...51 million worldwide. Daily US cases still rising, from 100K/day to 120K+/day. Not the greatest situation for a new administration to inherit.
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btickler wrote:
10 million cases in the US...51 million worldwide. Daily US cases still rising, from 100K/day to 120K+/day. Not the greatest situation for a new administration to inherit.
Well, fortunately for America the election is over and this thing will just go away. That’s what people have been saying.
oh, 120,000 new cases. Well then. Hopefully this Pfizer vaccine gets here soon
The number of cases went from 20 per day to 80 per day, with a peak of 95 a couple days ago. People are tired and not taking care of themselves anymore.
btickler wrote:
UnclePeet wrote:
Some positivity(for a change)
In the US hospitalizations from Covid are down 80%
The viruses survivability for people under 40 with no co-morbidity is 99.8%
And regardless of what the media tells you the US is doing far better than many countries like Spain, Italy, France etc
The US has the most deaths...but a HUGE population. It is anti scientific to not account for population size.
When population size is taken into account the US is not performing worse than many other countries.
In the US hospitalizations from Covid are down 80%
The viruses survivability for people under 40 with no co-morbidity is 99.8%
And regardless of what the media tells you the US is doing far better than many countries like Spain, Italy, France etc
The US has the most deaths...but a HUGE population. It is anti scientific to not account for population size.
When population size is taken into account the US is not performing worse than many other countries.
200+ countries/territories have a lower ratio of cases per capita, so...no. Your statement is false.
Head over to Worldometer, hit "countries", then click at the top of the "cases/million pop" column to sort if ascending, then click it again to sort it descending. Scroll down...and down...and down...and down, until you reach the U.S. at #206.
Then reflect on where you are receiving your talking points from.
Nothing I wrote was false. If you think something I wrote was false be specific and point out exactly what it was.
I said the US which has the busiest airport on earth and is the 3rd most visited country in the world was ranked above countries like the UK and Spain and France, Italy, Belgium etc per capita as far as deaths.
And nobody cares how low the infection/death rate is in Countries like Monserrat and Tonga. They have no cities and virtually no travel.
The US is doing BETTER than many countries in Europe and that is a FACT.
The survivability rate for COVID is 99.98% for anyone under the age of 50. And that includes healthy people and people with comorbidity.
The number would be even higher for only healthy people.
I’m from New York, the hardest hit place in the world, and I’ve been working since day 1.
The survivability for under 70 is 99.5%.
All straight from the CDC and applied only to America.
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UK chancellor has been speaking today... estimated cost for Coronavirus measures this year is £280 billion + an estimated £73 billion next year. The summary of his speech is we are f***ed for the next 4 years or so, unemployment will rise, taxes will rise etc. Good times.
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llama45 wrote:
You say the survivability for under 70 is >99% yet the stats you posted above show most countries have a case-fatality ratio of ~2-3%
That's not hard to understand: basically there's a much higher fatality rate in people aged 70+
llama45 wrote:
UnclePeet wrote:
The survivability rate for COVID is 99.98% for anyone under the age of 50. And that includes healthy people and people with comorbidity.
The number would be even higher for only healthy people.
I’m from New York, the hardest hit place in the world, and I’ve been working since day 1.
The survivability for under 70 is 99.5%.
All straight from the CDC and applied only to America.
You say the survivability for under 70 is >99% yet the stats you posted before this show most countries have a case-fatality ratio of ~2-3%
So if you want to claim survivability is 99% you're going to have to give some links.
I clearly qualified my statement by saying it applied only to America
llama45 wrote:
UnclePeet wrote:
llama45 wrote:
UnclePeet wrote:
The survivability rate for COVID is 99.98% for anyone under the age of 50. And that includes healthy people and people with comorbidity.
The number would be even higher for only healthy people.
I’m from New York, the hardest hit place in the world, and I’ve been working since day 1.
The survivability for under 70 is 99.5%.
All straight from the CDC and applied only to America.
You say the survivability for under 70 is >99% yet the stats you posted before this show most countries have a case-fatality ratio of ~2-3%
So if you want to claim survivability is 99% you're going to have to give some links.
I clearly qualified my statement by saying it applied only to America
Maybe you didn't understand the image you posted earlier. It shows a survivability of 97.9% for the US.
Did you even read what I posted? Is this a waste of my time?
I clearly have the survivability rates based on AGE...not totality.
Did you not see that?
llama45 wrote:
Caedrel wrote:
llama45 wrote:
You say the survivability for under 70 is >99% yet the stats you posted above show most countries have a case-fatality ratio of ~2-3%
That's not hard to understand: basically there's a much higher fatality rate in people aged 70+
It would have to be enormously high for it to turn 99.5 into 97.
I looked up deaths by age in the US, and this is not the case.
It just so happens that it IS enormously high.
UnclePeet wrote:
Nothing I wrote was false. If you think something I wrote was false be specific and point out exactly what it was.
I said the US which has the busiest airport on earth and is the 3rd most visited country in the world was ranked above countries like the UK and Spain and France, Italy, Belgium etc per capita as far as deaths.
And nobody cares how low the infection/death rate is in Countries like Monserrat and Tonga. They have no cities and virtually no travel.
The US is doing BETTER than many countries in Europe and that is a FACT.
You are using fatality as your measuring bar, I am using total infections...which is the proper measure for deciding how well the US response is in handling the outbreak, and as I posted then, the US was #206 in the world in terms of infection rate. The fact that we had better hospitals/facilities going in does not mean we handled this better.
It's also somewhat amusing that you would remember to respond to this now, when the current situation in the US is far, far worse. At 200,000 cases/day, the response is a complete disaster.
By the way, you need a new T-shirt 
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Back in March they had it at .2%
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6922859-COVID19-Proposed-Outbreak-Scenarios-2020-04-14.html
btickler wrote:
UnclePeet wrote:
Nothing I wrote was false. If you think something I wrote was false be specific and point out exactly what it was.
I said the US which has the busiest airport on earth and is the 3rd most visited country in the world was ranked above countries like the UK and Spain and France, Italy, Belgium etc per capita as far as deaths.
And nobody cares how low the infection/death rate is in Countries like Monserrat and Tonga. They have no cities and virtually no travel.
The US is doing BETTER than many countries in Europe and that is a FACT.
You are using fatality as your measuring bar, I am using total infections...which is the proper measure for deciding how well the US response is in handling the outbreak, and as I posted then, the US was #206 in the world in terms of infection rate. The fact that we had better hospitals/facilities going in does not mean we handled this better.
It's also somewhat amusing that you would remember to respond to this now, when the current situation in the US is far, far worse. At 200,000 cases/day, the response is a complete disaster.
By the way, you need a new T-shirt .
The infection rate of a virus with a 99.8% survivability for anyone under 50 is meaningless
btickler wrote:
UnclePeet wrote:
Nothing I wrote was false. If you think something I wrote was false be specific and point out exactly what it was.
I said the US which has the busiest airport on earth and is the 3rd most visited country in the world was ranked above countries like the UK and Spain and France, Italy, Belgium etc per capita as far as deaths.
And nobody cares how low the infection/death rate is in Countries like Monserrat and Tonga. They have no cities and virtually no travel.
The US is doing BETTER than many countries in Europe and that is a FACT.
You are using fatality as your measuring bar, I am using total infections...which is the proper measure for deciding how well the US response is in handling the outbreak, and as I posted then, the US was #206 in the world in terms of infection rate. The fact that we had better hospitals/facilities going in does not mean we handled this better.
It's also somewhat amusing that you would remember to respond to this now, when the current situation in the US is far, far worse. At 200,000 cases/day, the response is a complete disaster.
By the way, you need a new T-shirt .
There is also nothing that could have been done to prevent further outbreak. A second wave was predicted while the first was still going on and worst case estimates were almost 2 million dead.
Nothing you or anyone else would have done would have stopped it once it was in a country like America with a HUGE population and many many densely packed major cities.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-54818615