Covid-19 Discussion (moderated) - Chess Forums - Page 92

Marie-AnneLiz

Dec 26, 2020

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#1821

Pat_Zurr a écrit :

Do you drive? Do you have friends or family who have served in military or as police officers? Have you ridden a roller coaster? Kayaked, rock climbed, surfed, boogied boarded, gone camping, etc.? Where would be without those who explored the seas and founded new lands, launched men into space, risked their money on business endeavors, etc. etc? Many of the things we do in this life come with risks, but a life not lived is no life at all. Locking everyone up is not the answer. Why on earth do you and others continue to inject politics and religion into this. This is about humanity and how we as humans are going to proceed. Do you think is realistic to lock down the world? Viruses mutate, the goal posts will continue to be constantly moved and the lock downs will continue perpetually.

I have done a deep dive on this and there is much to be concerned about in data and stats that is being batted about. I have tried to step back from my natural biases in this evaluation. You really have no idea what the world thinks nor what I think. The minds of men are deeper than covid. Obviously, based on your comments, you believe those who disagree with you are intellectually and socially inferior. You must overcome that bias. There are those who just go along with the popular groupthink within their circles and there are those who have come to their conclusions after analyzing data from a variety of competing sources. Many of the sources have an agenda, so you must try to get past that the best you can.

Please step back from your politics and religion for just minute. Like the flu bugs, new strains will continue to perpetuate, lock downs will continue indefinitely and fear will rule the day. Herd immunity and a return to normalcy with risks must happen or we will not live free.

Live free? it's was never about religion or politics on our side;it's about science! and saving our invaluable health care system from being overwhelmed.

Doctor Fauci knowledge has nothing to do about religion or politics or your bias and you know nothing about this pandemie compare to him!

You are on the side of beliefs and religion and living in the past!

Science is about looking forward!

Marie-AnneLiz

Dec 26, 2020

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#1822

ExploringWA a écrit :

btickler wrote:

ExploringWA wrote:

400 children are abducted and never found, every year, in the U.S.? I didn’t realize the number was so high. I know a guy who disappeared in March. Poof. Him and his truck. Family and friends can’t find him. PI, no luck.

Covid is still the larger issue by a couple of orders of magnitude currently.

Abducted children are on the very top of my list. Global and institutionalized child trafficking is a deal on the order of magnitude larger than Covid. Look how fast we were able to come up with a solution for Covid. Child trafficking goes back forever.

Every 98 seconds someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted. That means every single day more than 570 people experience sexual violence in this country.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/sexual-assault-statistics_n_58e24c14e4b0c777f788d24f?ri18n=true

Marie-AnneLiz

Dec 26, 2020

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#1823

ExploringWA a écrit :

btickler wrote:

ExploringWA wrote:

400 children are abducted and never found, every year, in the U.S.? I didn’t realize the number was so high. I know a guy who disappeared in March. Poof. Him and his truck. Family and friends can’t find him. PI, no luck.

Covid is still the larger issue by a couple of orders of magnitude currently.

Abducted children are on the very top of my list. Global and institutionalized child trafficking is a deal on the order of magnitude larger than Covid. Look how fast we were able to come up with a solution for Covid. Child trafficking goes back forever.

Every 98 seconds someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted. That means every single day more than 570 people experience sexual violence in this country.

DiogenesDue

Dec 26, 2020

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#1824

Sexual assault is a big issue, but not for this thread.

ATV-STEVE

Dec 26, 2020

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#1825

btickler wrote:

ExploringWA wrote:

The abortion of a viable fetus is murder. Covid doesn’t even come close.

Not according to US law, nor the majority of US citizens by poll. Now take that topic elsewhere. No second warning.

The opinion of the majority never makes anything ethically right.

DiogenesDue

Dec 26, 2020

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#1826

ATV-STEVE wrote:

btickler wrote:

ExploringWA wrote:

The abortion of a viable fetus is murder. Covid doesn’t even come close.

Not according to US law, nor the majority of US citizens by poll. Now take that topic elsewhere. No second warning.

The opinion of the majority never makes anything ethically right.

Be more precise/perceptive. Murder is a legal definition. I didn't say anything about whether abortion is ethically right or not. Not one word. Because, for the last time, this thread is not about abortion. It'll be immediate blocks for anyone that continues to bring it up or perpetuates it. I should have been clearer in the last post that "now take that topic elsewhere" applies to everyone posting here.

You have the power, post your own threads. See how far they go. Perhaps it's just easier to complain on other people's threads than to actually do anything yourself.

Marie-AnneLiz

Dec 27, 2020

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#1827

ATV-STEVE a écrit :

btickler wrote:

ExploringWA wrote:

The abortion of a viable fetus is murder. Covid doesn’t even come close.

Not according to US law, nor the majority of US citizens by poll. Now take that topic elsewhere. No second warning.

The opinion of the majority never makes anything ethically right.

It depend on the country and if they are well informed or not.

In Russia and China obviously not!

Context matter!

DiogenesDue

Dec 27, 2020

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#1828

Marie-AnneLiz wrote:

ATV-STEVE a écrit :

btickler wrote:

ExploringWA wrote:

The abortion of a viable fetus is murder. Covid doesn’t even come close.

Not according to US law, nor the majority of US citizens by poll. Now take that topic elsewhere. No second warning.

The opinion of the majority never makes anything ethically right.

It depend on the country and if they are well informed or not.

In Russia and China obviously not!

Context matter!

The statement itself is correct in that by itself without any other reason, there is no reason to assume that something is ethical simply because it's the opinion held by the majority. The reason it didn't apply in this case is because I (purposefully, to avoid exactly what then happened anyway) did not make any mention about the ethics of the subject matter.

ATV-STEVE

Dec 28, 2020

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#1829

btickler wrote:

ATV-STEVE wrote:

btickler wrote:

ExploringWA wrote:

The abortion of a viable fetus is murder. Covid doesn’t even come close.

Not according to US law, nor the majority of US citizens by poll. Now take that topic elsewhere. No second warning.

The opinion of the majority never makes anything ethically right.

Be more precise/perceptive. Murder is a legal definition. I didn't say anything about whether abortion is ethically right or not. Not one word. Because, for the last time, this thread is not about abortion. It'll be immediate blocks for anyone that continues to bring it up or perpetuates it. I should have been clearer in the last post that "now take that topic elsewhere" applies to everyone posting here.

You have the power, post your own threads. See how far they go. Perhaps it's just easier to complain on other people's threads than to actually do anything yourself.

I was not complaining I was responding to your statement.

Human sacrifice, infanticide, female genital mutilation and the use of leeches in medicine have all had the approval of the majority.

DiogenesDue

Dec 28, 2020

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#1830

ATV-STEVE wrote:

I was not complaining I was responding to your statement.

Human sacrifice, infanticide, female genital mutilation and the use of leeches

in medicine have all had the approval of the majority.

Funny that you added "female", when it still happens to both sexes routinely every day in the US and around the world .

The problem is, my statement didn't contain anything about the ethics, or lack thereof of anything. I stated that murder is a legal definition, and that abortion does not currently qualify as such, and mentioned that this is backed up by the majority of voters (implying that it may stay that way for awhile).

Personally, I believe there's a disconnect in the definitions and that there needs to be a consistent criteria that determines both whether someone is "alive" and "human" at the beginning, middle, and the end of life. Can you pull the plug on a human being that is brain dead? Yes? So what constitutes "brain alive"? Brainwaves patterns of a certainly complexity? It can't just be response to stimulus alone. Decide on a consistent measure. Now take that criteria and apply it across the board. I am not a fan of people that wait until the 3rd trimester to make a decision, but it is within their rights.

Read this article.

Enough said. I have clarified what I meant to the minimum degree possible, and this diversion/subtopic is officially over. Anyone that wants to discuss that topic further is welcome to post a thread and take their chances . Anyone going further here will be blocked.

Abhinav

Dec 29, 2020

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#1831

US and India register their first cases of new Covid strain discovered in UK.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/28/us-confirms-first-case-of-the-new-covid-strain-discovered-in-uk-.html

https://scroll.in/latest/982587/coronavirus-india-registers-first-six-cases-of-new-strain-after-travellers-from-uk-test-positive

The new strain is said to be 70% more transferrable than the original one.

DiogenesDue

Dec 29, 2020

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#1832

Abhinav0121 wrote:

US and India register their first cases of new Covid strain discovered in UK.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/28/us-confirms-first-case-of-the-new-covid-strain-discovered-in-uk-.html

https://scroll.in/latest/982587/coronavirus-india-registers-first-six-cases-of-new-strain-after-travellers-from-uk-test-positive

The new strain is said to be 70% more transferrable than the original one.

Not good news, especially since the US is already about to hit 20 million cases tonight...I am waiting a few more days for better info on the new strain, though (by which I mean that my secret ace-in-the-hole microbiologist hasn't dug into it yet...my 6-degrees-of-separation number with Fauci right now is 3, and they are all microbiologists so I don't even lose much in translation ...).

Abhinav

Dec 30, 2020

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#1833

UK regulators have finally approved Oxford/Astra-Zeneca vaccine for emergency use. The vaccination program in the UK is already underway with Pfizer's vaccine, so now they are gonna add Oxford's vaccine to that.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/30/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-approved-by-uk-regulator-.html

DiogenesDue

Jan 4, 2021

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#1834

When conspiracy theorists actually harm people:

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/pharmacist-sabotaged-vaccines-because-thought-003400863.html

Dumba$$. Pardon my French .

DiogenesDue

Jan 9, 2021

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#1835

90 million cases worldwide as of this morning.

xjo2007

Jan 9, 2021

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#1836

HHAAHAHAHAHAAHHA

xjo2007

Jan 9, 2021

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#1837

you actualy believe there is 90 million cases.. ??SFsdF#??!2

xjo2007

Jan 9, 2021

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#1838

there are these much

DiogenesDue

Jan 9, 2021

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#1839

The_chess_troller wrote:

you actualy believe there is 90 million cases.. ??SFsdF#??!2

Bye. These posts will be gone after you get banned. But I'm saving this one so there's a record of what a tool you are. Here's an article that explains the phenom:

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2010/11/26/feature-is-it-just-us-or-are-kids-getting-really-stupid/

DiogenesDue

Jan 19, 2021

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#1840

The inauguration will be tomorrow, and the US will surpass 25 million cases to mark the day. The world will hit 100 million cases within a week following.