Your undergraduate doesn't matter to me, If it helps you, I have a masters and it means nothing other than it helped me to get a higher working income. I don't even hang it on the wall. What matters to me and other rubes like myself is the truth. I don't automatically accept anything I hear from the government or the media without researching it. It irritates both my democratic and republican friends and co-workers. I read both left and right sources because I find the truth is usually somewhere in between. I despise nearly all politicians on both right and left. that being said, once you get into higher level courses, pray you can write a research paper as good and as meticulously well documented as the one posted earlier in the thread.
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Bitickler, I must warn you politics will not be tolerated. Please confine your arguments strictly to the scientific data presented. Dark Knight you also are on the list 
Your undergraduate doesn't matter to me, If it helps you, I have a masters and it means nothing other than it helped me to get a higher working income. I don't even hang it on the wall. What matters to me and other rubes like myself is the truth. I don't automatically accept anything I hear from the government or the media without researching it. It irritates both my democratic and republican friends and co-workers. I read both left and right sources because I find the truth is usually somewhere in between. I despise nearly all politicians on both right and left. that being said, once you get into higher level courses, pray you can write a research paper as good and as meticulously well documented as the one posted earlier in the thread.
Citing Breitbart is a no no for real scientists. I'll be sure to put at least 10 colorful graphs however, to fill in any huge gaps in actual information : )
Bitickler, I must warn you politics will not be tolerated. Please confine your arguments strictly to the scientific data presented. Dark Knight you also are on the list
??? You can write me down on any list you wish if it makes you feel better mate : )
uh no, this is not Breitbart, nor Gatewaypundit nor nytimes nor washington post or any other left are right rag, the site is posted. What is your agenda here? Serously? Speaking for myself, I want to see honest data, honest solutions and a return to a normal functioning society where we are not locked up 24/7 in our gilded cages. Do we seek the same things?
Bitickler, I must warn you politics will not be tolerated. Please confine your arguments strictly to the scientific data presented. Dark Knight you also are on the list
It's not a scientific paper, and there are no "results" data presented in it. Politics? There was no politics in anything I said about the PDF you posted.
uh no, this is not Breitbart, nor Gatewaypundit nor nytimes nor washington post or any other left are right rag, the site is posted. What is your agenda here? Serously? Speaking for myself, I want to see honest data, honest solutions and a return to a normal functioning society where we are not locked up 24/7 in our gilded cages. Do we seek the same things?
The "study" you posted cited Breitbart as a source. This is the first thing I looked at, was not disappointed in the slightest. Sources indicate this is not a credible study.
And yes, we seek the same things, which is why it is amusing to me why people do not get on board with what scientists ask us to do as a collective. Boggles my mind : )
Aha...I found your source, published earlier today, which is pretty obviously not a coincidence 
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I won't link it ...but here's a further excerpt from the article you found this link on:
"Why did the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation fund research at MIT on how to implant people’s vaccination history under their skin? Why did Fauci meet with Bill Gates’ father, George Soros, and other globalist heavyweights all the way back in 2001? Why did the Stephen King-created television series The Dead Zone predict the Coronavirus outbreak — and a Chloroquine cure for it — back in 2003?"
Yeah...conspiracy BS in its purest form. No wonder you only posted the PDF link.
Bye.
I strongly suspect shutting ones ears to all forms of media would lead to a more contented existence. We want to know, but ultimately what good does it do us?
I strongly suspect shutting ones ears to all forms of media would lead to a more contented existence. We want to know, but ultimately what good does it do us?
One (sad) possibility could be: we die earlier than should, but "content", Brave New World like...
I have fairly often considered this question...I am somewhat envious of the Sentinelese for example. What contentment a life without the noise of the world must bring. To wake, catch your fish, eat, talk, fire arrows at encroaching helicopters or misguided missionaries, then retire to your hut to make love to your woman before sleep.
Well toothache is annoying I'll grant you. Mind you, so is attempting to decipher reality and reconcile whether it even matters. Plus taxes, they are also quite annoying.
Messenger RNA vaccines are new technology, so the Nobel Prize nominee was right...but it's no different than it was to taking Tylenol instead of Aspirin when it first came out. It has passed clinical trials, etc. and while the trials were streamlined this time...they were not relaxed all that much. The traditional vaccines pump some of the virus in a de-clawed form into you and cause your immune system to respond and form anti-bodies. Messenger RNA actually "trains" your immune system to create the antibody required. That's why the Johnson and Johnson vaccine is 65%-70% effective and the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines (which are mRNA vaccines) are 95%.
Basics of mRNA in <5 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOvvyqJ-vwo
^^^ Seriously, watch this, it's clear and concise.
Yeah that too...
'No one understands the heartache,
No one feels the pain,
No one ever sees the tears,
When you're crying in the rain.'
Another useful vaccine video:
Moderna vs. Pfizer, what's the difference?
I prefer Moderna, because it does not require the super=cold storage that Pfizer does and cane be stored in "normal" refrigerators, so less chance of screw ups.
AstraZeneca is a traditional vaccine, like Johnson and Johnson's upcoming release.
If I could chose, I'd pick the Russian or the Chinese vaccine, since they've been made out of well known and verified technologies, and also because Pfitzer got condemned in the past for false advertizing. But we won't have a choice... (Here in France)
I actually have another reason to prefer Moderna...all the conspiracy theorists that think Bill Gates wants to microchip them are afraid of Moderna . So it would be an anti-ignorance boost for their long term success, the more people that take it.
Another useful vaccine video:
Moderna vs. Pfizer, what's the difference?
I prefer Moderna, for 2 reasons:
1. It is stored in "normal" freezers, so less chance of screw ups
2. It has a 3 week interval between initial shot and the booster, instead of 4 weeks, so you will have immunity at about the 5 week mark
AstraZeneca is a traditional vaccine, like Johnson and Johnson's upcoming release.
I think you have these mixed up, the Moderna vaccine is 4 weeks between doses.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/Moderna.html
Thought so The scientific study is there for those so inclined.
1600% doesn't pass the reality test. You can't "fake" 450,000 deaths. Just don't be crazy enough to tell this crap to anyone whose relative has died, you might get seriously f'ed up.
I see a PDF hosted anonymously on a dubious website. It's not a peer reviewed scientific study. I'm going to give you this final attempt because it's in a different format, but if you post any more sources that are not verified/certified (for articles, I gave you the mediabiasfactcheck.com levels I would accept, for scientific studies I expect a link to a publisher, like New England Journal of Medicine or the like, and a peer-reviewed study), that'll be it for posting on the thread.
BTW, the PDF is not a scientific study at all. It's an interpretation of regulations and a list of timelines (containing many silly aspersions, like listing Fauci sending money to Wuhan like it was some kind of personal and illegal payoff instead of the truth, that the US and China had an agreement on research and the money was a legitimate and normal part of that agreement).