Covid19 and chess around the World!

I see no evidence of "cold hard facts", only what is being shown on the news, and by politicians, Politicians who cannot balance a budget, and a news media that cant even get the weather report  correct lol! When did it ever become their job to push a pandemic, mandate mask wearing, social distancing, etc.,? Funny how pharma industries are racing to get a vaccine out, for billions of dolllars in revenue (when did a vaccine ever cure anything? Now, Tuberculosis kills 1,5 million every year, so why no masks, distancing, shut downs of schools, businesses, etc.? Hmmmm...peculiar isn't it? No, the burden of proof lies with you! You are the one saying people are dying from it, yet you are not dead, neither am I. Your name calling, indicates a frustration that I do not agree with the popular belief of this "pandemic," Get as mad as you want, call me all the silly names you want, fact is, my proof is here, yours is not. So you have seen post mortem reports, final diagnosis of all these dead, to be sure beyond (what you see on the news) that they all died from CV? The  WHO says there are 5 major types of antibodies, -Iga, IgG, IgM, IdG, and IgE. IgG are the smallest to be found in all body fluids, in all humans, So now the antibodies IgG and IgM are being labeled as specific for CV! So, all humans could test positive for it, not meaning they are ill, or going to die, it's just part of our physiology, and is being used to determine so many diagnosis and deaths! What is happening now is called "Symptomatic Diagnosis", meaning you can get run over by a train, and you will be labeled as "Dead from CV. So, show me your proof, you are looking at mine, I am alive, and do not plan on dying from some government planned (election year) "pandemic." And as mad as you get, that's fine, but save your childish name calling, for yourself. By the way, I studied Biology in college, emphasis on,,,,..Cell Biology.

if it's not around you, why to people get it and go to hospitals 🏥 .why are they coming up with a vaccine ,and why do they shut down schools and have no live chess tournaments . why do they ask you to do safe-distancing and close restaurants for a while @voodoo_dawn

I see no evidence of "cold hard facts", only what is being shown on the news, and by politicians, Politicians who cannot balance a budget, and a news media that cant even get the weather report  correct lol! When did it ever become their job to push a pandemic, mandate mask wearing, social distancing, etc.,? Funny how pharma industries are racing to get a vaccine out, for billions of dolllars in revenue (when did a vaccine ever cure anything? Now, Tuberculosis kills 1,5 million every year, so why no masks, distancing, shut downs of schools, businesses, etc.? Hmmmm...peculiar isn't it? No, the burden of proof lies with you! You are the one saying people are dying from it, yet you are not dead, neither am I. Your name calling, indicates a frustration that I do not agree with the popular belief of this "pandemic," Get as mad as you want, call me all the silly names you want, fact is, my proof is here, yours is not. So you have seen post mortem reports, final diagnosis of all these dead, to be sure beyond (what you see on the news) that they all died from CV? The  WHO says there are 5 major types of antibodies, -Iga, IgG, IgM, IdG, and IgE. IgG are the smallest to be found in all body fluids, in all humans, So now the antibodies IgG and IgM are being labeled as specific for CV! So, all humans could test positive for it, not meaning they are ill, or going to die, it's just part of our physiology, and is being used to determine so many diagnosis and deaths! What is happening now is called "Symptomatic Diagnosis", meaning you can get run over by a train, and you will be labeled as "Dead from CV. So, show me your proof, you are looking at mine, I am alive, and do not plan on dying from some government planned (election year) "pandemic." And as mad as you get, that's fine, but save your childish name calling, for yourself. By the way, I studied Biology in college, emphasis on,,,,..Cell Biology.

Isn't covid similar to the flu in some case

It's all about mortality rate. Covid-19 currently is 4 to 5 times more lethal than covid-19 in terms of mortality rates. It's hard to blame people for contaminating another with the flu since there is a vaccine available that would prevent death. The main problem that I have has boiled down to you equating the flu with covid-19, which is false. It is a false narrative that is currently causing real consequences not just in the US, but abroad. people that buy into this false narrative will be more prone to engaging in risky behaviors that they would not have normally, people that perpetuate this false narrative will not help you get back to normal life any sooner. You are harming your own goal to achieve normalcy once again, by continuing to be a part of the problem instead of the solution. I myself am tired of wearing a mask, I am tired of not going out to see my friends, to go out and have fun. That is why I become so irritated by individuals that do not care about the collective, but just their own personal short-term satisfaction. 

We dont know what the mortality rate is. In our state they finally changed the language from dying from covid to dying WITH covid.  They were counting all the people in hospice, with days or weeks to live, as dying from covid even though they actually died of the thing that they were in hospice for. We just surpassed 500 deaths in our state, and the VAST majority have been old people in poor health. 

On a personal note, from my own observations, the covid is different than the flu because when you have the flu, you KNOW it. But most people who have covid either dont know it or dismiss the symptoms as mild or something else. I know 8 people who have had it. Some not very well, but still enough to be interested in their health. Of those 8, 2 got sick, 6 didn't know they had it. Of the two who got sick, one was significant but got over it within a few days. I tend to agree with Dr. Fauci. The actual mortality rate is probably about .1%. Or about the same as the flu. Which is why it gets compared so much. I also expect about the same vaccine participation. I wouldn't be surprised if fewer people get an available covid vaccine than flu vaccine. 

Let's see here,also @Voodoo_Dawn, 195,000 deaths from covid-19, divided by 6,600,000 people in the US= 3% mortality rate, 30 times more than what you are suggesting. 

If we count EVERYONE who dies while also having covid then yes, it's probably about 3%. 

Allow me to interject with my personal situation.

Due to an extremely serious case of H1N1 in 2009, I have scar tissue on my lungs, am missing a gall bladder, and my kidneys are somewhat compromised. (They are currently healthy, but I need to undergo annual GFR and ACR tests to monitor the situation.)

Since then, I have kept myself physically fit. I exercise regularly and maintain a healthy diet. I keep up to date on my flu and pneumonia vaccinations. 

Barring a catastrophic accident or unexpected onslaught of disease, I am likely to have 30 or 40 more years of happy active life.

If I were unfortunate enough to contract Covid-19, however, my chances of survival would be less than optimum. Should this happen, I fear that you and those you follow would classify my death as being caused by the scar tissue on my lungs or on my less than 100% healthy kidneys. You will thus further justify the negligent behavior that many in this discussion seem to be advocating. 

What does covid do to me and am I able to live and not die from it

Hopefully I haven't said anything that advocates negligent behavior. The covid is a serious disease. But from the statistics in our state, it impacts almost only people who are old AND in poor health. There are exceptions of course. We have some deaths that were in younger people with health problems too. 

In your unfortunate situation, yes, our state would probably classify that as an underlying condition. But it's also rare. I think it's important that people understand and realize the actual dangers. For many people the risks are real and precautions are extremely important. But the reality is most people dont have underlying conditions. Which is why the vast majority of people who get the covid either dont get sick at all, or have minimal symptoms. It appears from polling that the number of people who are willing to get a covid vaccine isn't much different than the people who are willing to get a flu vaccine. That polling could be wrong, but just from every day experience it's probably pretty accurate.

Stating the facts about covid shouldn't be any different than stating facts about the flu, or other communicable diseases. People die each year of the flu, and many could have been prevented if the people around them were more careful and didn't spread it. So while I strongly urge people who are vulnerable to take care of themselves, including precautions about being around others, I also realize the dishonesty in some of the reported numbers. It's simply dishonest to say that everyone who dies while having covid died OF covid. Like Tumpai said, years from now we might have a better picture of the actual mortality rate, but right now I can only go by the actual numbers given. 

In my particular situation, my state, they claim about 29,000 people have tested positive. But that obviously doesn't count the people who have had it (never knew it or knew it and didn't get tested). Based on the latest findings that number is significant. So even though that number is unknown, the fact that many more people have had it than tested indicates a lower rate of illness and death. Couple that with the fact many deaths were attributed to covid when in reality covid was no factor at all, that also lowers the rate of death. I understand the need to call all deaths covid deaths. They do that to keep track of the disease, even it played no part in the death. It's just dishonest to factor that into the mortality rate. 

So I have to look at it like the flu or any other serious illness. It's not wise to be around other people if you have it, like a chess tournament. But the reality is most people are going to be slightly affected or not affected at all. For the minority who are vulnerable, they should take every precaution necessary to avoid catching it. 

Think this thread got off track a little. In terms of chess, the latest issue of chess life magazine covered the topic of Covid's effect on chess and interest in chess has literally exploded worldwide as people have searched out alternative outlets for entertainment and challenge. 

I didn't suggest anything, those were Fauci's words. not mine. LOL! I'm not dead, and will not die from cv. You apparently didn't read my entire post, try it again, then bow down, and acknowledge defeat! If you wish to play chess, let me know,,and you will lose that match too lol! I iwll let this whole agenda play out, and depending on which way the election goes, it will go out with a whimper. And you will owe me a huge apology. I eagerly await!

Hopefully I haven't said anything that advocates negligent behavior. The covid is a serious disease. But from the statistics in our state, it impacts almost only people who are old AND in poor health. There are exceptions of course. We have some deaths that were in younger people with health problems too. 

In your unfortunate situation, yes, our state would probably classify that as an underlying condition. But it's also rare. I think it's important that people understand and realize the actual dangers. For many people the risks are real and precautions are extremely important. But the reality is most people dont have underlying conditions. Which is why the vast majority of people who get the covid either dont get sick at all, or have minimal symptoms. It appears from polling that the number of people who are willing to get a covid vaccine isn't much different than the people who are willing to get a flu vaccine. That polling could be wrong, but just from every day experience it's probably pretty accurate.

Stating the facts about covid shouldn't be any different than stating facts about the flu, or other communicable diseases. People die each year of the flu, and many could have been prevented if the people around them were more careful and didn't spread it. So while I strongly urge people who are vulnerable to take care of themselves, including precautions about being around others, I also realize the dishonesty in some of the reported numbers. It's simply dishonest to say that everyone who dies while having covid died OF covid. Like Tumpai said, years from now we might have a better picture of the actual mortality rate, but right now I can only go by the actual numbers given. 

In my particular situation, my state, they claim about 29,000 people have tested positive. But that obviously doesn't count the people who have had it (never knew it or knew it and didn't get tested). Based on the latest findings that number is significant. So even though that number is unknown, the fact that many more people have had it than tested indicates a lower rate of illness and death. Couple that with the fact many deaths were attributed to covid when in reality covid was no factor at all, that also lowers the rate of death. I understand the need to call all deaths covid deaths. They do that to keep track of the disease, even it played no part in the death. It's just dishonest to factor that into the mortality rate. 

So I have to look at it like the flu or any other serious illness. It's not wise to be around other people if you have it, like a chess tournament. But the reality is most people are going to be slightly affected or not affected at all. For the minority who are vulnerable, they should take every precaution necessary to avoid catching it. 

LOL yes, and I am still not dead? Ok., The Journal of American Medicine actually recommended that masks not be worn by otherwise healthy individuals, and that no proof suggests that masks protect one from a "virus." As far as my health habits, well I'm beautiful and I am still alive, so, case closed!

I didn't suggest anything, those were Fauci's words. not mine. LOL! I'm not dead, and will not die from cv. You apparently didn't read my entire post, try it again, then bow down, and acknowledge defeat! If you wish to play chess, let me know,,and you will lose that match too lol! I iwll let this whole agenda play out, and depending on which way the election goes, it will go out with a whimper. And you will owe me a huge apology. I eagerly await!

Did you even read my post about some people who thought like you and had a. big party and then they all got covid and a. lot of them died?