noodles2112 wrote:
I heard the Borg sucked up the Tesla
They need the lithium. They're depressed.
Does True Randomness Actually Exist?
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May 15, 2023
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#2243
Optimissed wrote:
Sillver1 wrote:
‘The relationship between randomness and determinism is enlightened by the definitions: randomness is about what isn't known. Determinism is solely about what is known (everything in the future, given full knowledge of the past). There cannot be an overlap when they are being defined from the same point of view (what is known can't be what isn't known)’
yes, problem is that once you redefine determinism from your unique point of view in terms of knowledge instead of using the universal definition, you don’t talk about causal determinism anymore, you talk about something else. foreign to the universal way that science philosophers think and talk about determinism. it doesn’t even add anything to a conversation about determinism other than confusion. so what’s the point?
I don't go for this "randomness is about what isn't known" lark. It's imprecise. It isn't known beforehand and it can be known afterwards. It's not a good way to describe it.
It's a central clear cut fact relating to the real world. The precision comes with the entire mathematical theory that goes with it. Note that it also underlines the viewpoint-dependent nature of randomness. Most simply, a coin toss is random before it occurs, then entirely non-random afterwards. What has changed is the viewpoint. There are many (sometimes more complex) contexts in which it helps to realise this.
Cult of Information.
Fabricated notion.
The idea of "knowing" is weaker than the idea of predicting, so it's a weak description in either case.
Wooly philosophical thinking.
May 15, 2023
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#2244
noodles2112 wrote:
Kinda like Elon Musk joking about his Tesla in space with cosmonaut behind the wheel.
Ever see the movie Heavy Metal?
There is your fantasy/reality.
Seems clear that Musk launched his Tesla partly to screw with the conspiracy theorists. It's a (narcissistic?) stunt that happened. No deep meaning.
May 15, 2023
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#2245
Awww... I was hoping he and his billionaire buddies would all fly to Mars.
May 15, 2023
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#2246
noodles2112 wrote:
the golf balls the cosmonauts hit off the moon surface are still floating randomly by this time somewhere around Uranus.
It's often difficult to tell if you are entirely ignorant or pretending to be ignorant. The escape speed of the Moon is much greater than the speed the best golfer could impart to a ball.
Remarkably, the highest speed achieved on Earth with a golf ball is 235 km/h (I have never heard of a faster ball in any sport). This is an astonishing 65 m/s. If someone struck a ball at the optimal 45 degrees (vacuum!) on the Moon at this speed, it's vertical speed would be 46 m/s. Gravity on the Moon being only 1.62m/s, this means it would take 56.7 seconds to hit the ground again, and would have travelled 2.6 km (1.6 miles) before hitting the ground again. Magnificent, but not orbit.
Note that the balls hit by Alan Shepherd were struck a relaxed pace with an improvised club while wearing a bulky spacesuit, so they did not go more than a few hundred yards. It is now known where they landed. On the plus side, they stayed in flight longer than any golf ball on Earth!
https://astronomy.com/news/2021/02/alan-shepard-smacked-golf-balls-on-the-moon--and-now-we-know-where-they-landed
May 15, 2023
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#2247
DrSpudnik wrote:
Awww... I was hoping he and his billionaire buddies would all fly to Mars.
Yeah, they will probably do that to get out of tax jurisdiction.
May 15, 2023
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#2248
Yes, that is the way he forms his beliefs - starts with a joke and builds on that.
May 16, 2023
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#2252
Like Sirens Venus usurps all. from mars to mercury to uranus and neptune who often plays the tune
May 16, 2023
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#2254
noodles2112 wrote:
life is a joke
I thought it was a tale told by an idj't?
May 16, 2023
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#2256
noodles2112 wrote:
told by those who tell the tales.
You shouldn't tell tales, the cat will get your tongue!
noodles2112 wrote:
Kinda like Elon Musk joking about his Tesla in space with cosmonaut behind the wheel.
Ever see the movie Heavy Metal?
There is your fantasy/reality.
..except that elon’s joke is super impressive and red’s is just the kind of nonsense you’d expect from propaganda campaigns.. i’ll watch the movie if i run into it 
I heard the Borg sucked up the Tesla