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noodles2112 wrote:

according to heliocentrism & its "beginning" via the big bang - you are already traveling 186,000 miles per second - the speed of light - or somewhere in that vicinity OTEH18

Memory problems again?

All velocities are relative. Do you even know what that means? If not, just remember it is the reason you don't understand.

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no one walks outside and looks up at the night sky and says that star is 36.455 lightyears away and that one over there is 234,187 lightyears away and that one over there is 86,695 lightyears away and that one over there is 34.9 trillion lightyears etc.

those claims are strictly "authoritative" & must be "believed" by the majority.

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Elroch - do you believe in the big bang theory - or is it NOT a theory in your book ?

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noodles2112 wrote:

no one walks outside and looks up at the night sky and says that star is lightyears away and that one over there is 234,187 lightyears away and that one over there is 86,695 lightyears away and that one over there is trillion lightyears etc.

those claims are strictly "authoritative" & must be "believed" by the majority.

That’s because the naked eye has limits, and those distances require telescopes to measure. That’s why nobody walks outside and does that, because nobody has the ability to.

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noodles2112 wrote:

Elroch - do you believe in the big bang theory - or is it NOT a theory in your book ?

To keep it simple, I believe there is no serious doubt that the Universe has been expanding since every region was small, hot, dense, uniform plasma. I am pretty sure you don't have the understanding to seriously discuss the science - you are limited to jeering from a distance. It's like the discussion of stellar distances. You are as capable as someone who has never learnt the rules or seen a chessboard is at discussing chess.

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exactly - but even telescopes have limitations - 25x magnification - 100x , 250x -

only those "magical telescopes" that see "lightyears" away are controlled via "authority" -

go check out Nasa pics of space and see things "lightyears" away wink.png

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I can discuss "planet X" in a galaxy far far away Elroch -

I saw Star Wars 26 times in the theater when it came out wink.png

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noodles2112 wrote:

exactly - but even telescopes have limitations - 25x magnification - 100x , 250x -

only those "magical telescopes" that see "lightyears" away are controlled via "authority" -

go check out Nasa pics of space and see things "lightyears" away

Conspiracy theory drivel.

I already told you that a great deal of work was done by people from other countries before NASA existed.

These days, thousands of amateurs across the world have rather good telescopes and take amazing pictures. Computer tracking and computer combination of stacks of images helps (by adding light gathering power, like for a big telescope with a short exposure).
Two Chinese amateur astronomers won the ZWO Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2025 for their photo of the core of the Andromeda galaxy. Absolutely stunning. Of course thousands of other amateurs have taken other, less impressive photos of the same galaxy.

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When William Shatner aka Captain Kirk was asked the difference between Star Trek "science" & Nasa "Science" he said - "they are the same thing". -

Years later they shot him to space via Blue Origin wink.png

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Indeed - help me with this one Elroch -

when did they discover Charon was tidally locked with Pluto ?

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noodles2112 wrote:

Indeed - help me with this one Elroch -

when did they discover Charon was tidally locked with Pluto ?

Pluto was known to rotate every 6.4 days.

Charon was discovered in 1978 and found to orbit every 6.4 days. Hence it was directly observed to be tidally locked with the rotation of Pluto. It was immediately inferred that Charon would be tidally locked like Pluto (because it is easier to lock a small body, which has much less angular momentum).

The confirmation of this scientific prediction was made in 1985-1990 with eclipse observations.

Finally in 2015, direct, detailed photography from New Horizons confirmed what was already not in any doubt - both bodies were directly observed to rotate at the same rate as the 6.4 day orbit.

Do you think you have any point except being unable to look up simple facts?

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ignorance simply means "not known" -

remember - I was the one that told you "Charon was tidally locked with Pluto" - you told me, you did not know that - that was some time back.

The POINT as you say - is this -

even if you were right about all these measurements/discoveries etc. the Majority Must still "Appeal to Authority" .

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No, I don't remember that, but it is certainly not impossible that you would state something I didn't consciously remember. It would be refreshing for it to be a genuine fact for a rare change - as the tidal locking of Pluto and Charon is.

No-one knows more than a tiny fraction of all scientific knowledge without being able to look it up.

AIs do though.

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I enjoy chatting with globe apologists for the most part - if we both learn something new albeit fact/fiction happy.png

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I make no apology for the shape of the Earth - it's gravity that is to blame!

I get bored communicating with you, because you don't make any progress.

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"gravity" can be an interesting topic of discussion in and of itself - for it is the "god" of heliocentrism -

No "gravity" = No Heliocentrism !

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"progress" - defined how ?

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noodles2112 wrote:

No "gravity" = No Heliocentrism !

That is true.

Gravity is beyond your understanding. I don't have any reason to believe you will ever develop the capabilities to fix that.

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I remember Neil deGrasse Tyson (everyone's favorite heliocentric showman) once dropped a microphone "on stage" as proof of "gravity" - and everyone cheered obliviously !

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Am I right in believing you are incapable of calculating the path of a cannonball, given the initial velocity?

Do you believe that your inability makes you better than those who can do this reliably?

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