Does True Randomness Actually Exist?

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noodles2112 wrote:

Can anyone prove they have 1000's of satellites in so-called outer space? And please don't post a link to a plethora of NASA cartoon animations of satellites

How would you explain things like GPS on your cell phone without satellites?

How about 'Google Earth'?  Ever use it?  It seems there's a camera up there no?  If there's one there might be more than one?  Are you capable of reasoning anything at all?

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It's impressive how Google Earth can even see the fence.

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Optimissed 
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Ah, just googled it. Apparently the heat production in the solar wind is caused by magnetic turbulence, created by fluctuations on the Sun's surface.
 noodles2112 
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The sun is alleged to be 93 million miles away. How is that possible? Or is that just another heliocentric theory?

"solar" means "of or pertaining to the sun" (old fashioned, standard definition procedure is more precise than wishy-washy modern stuff) A wind's basically a wind and so the solar wind is a wind above the surface of the sun, just as a wind here is just above the Earth's surface.

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If the earth is a globe why was it necessary for PBS to use CGI to fake the curvature of the earth?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Hi I genuinely think these have all been written by insane people. However, even if not, it's probably best not to post them here. The crazy OP blocked us out of the original and Elroch started this one. We don't want it closed and discussions like these are against the rules here. It can be discussed in clubs. Hope you're doing well.

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Festerthetester - if satellites could zoom in from outer space and show things on earth like you believe then why doesn't NASA put the controversy to rest by showing satellites in outer space or video of one of their rockets from launch to docking at the ISS uncut/unedited? There are many more things NASA could do to put the whole controversy to rest but they don't... because they can't. 

Why not try and use some critical thinking/logic of your own some time? 

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Optimmissed - what do you mean blocked? Who blocked Elrochs thread?

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<<Thus, according to the heliocentric model, a new moon can only happen on the daylight side of the earth. The problem with that construct is that new moons, in fact, happen with regularity at night. The common occurrence of a nighttime new moon would be impossible if the heliocentric model were true. But nighttime new moons happen with predictable consistency. That regular occurrence of a nighttime new moon proves that the heliocentric model is wrong.>>

For instance, the picture illustrating why the new moon can't be seen at night is wrong. In reality the moon rises and sets. When it's set it's directly behind the Earth and can't be seen. After it's risen it can be seen from some parts of the darkened earth, although obviously not from points diametrically opposite the moon, as a very narrow sliver of illumination caused by the sun's light glancing off a very small part of the edge of the moon as it's observed from the Earth.

The person writing this is obviously quite stupid because he can't work this out. However, he's insane, because his beliefs prevent him from using his mind to such an extent that he adopts opinions and views which are rightly perceived as crazy. It's caused because for whatever reason, his mind doesn't work well.

(I also differ from some people regarding some beliefs that are in common currency but in my case it's because I'm clever enough to see the problems with some things .... not stupid enough not to see obvious realities.)

You can believe in religion, if you wish to, without believing in this kind of nonsense, which can only harm your mind. 

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noodles2112 wrote:

Optimmissed - what do you mean blocked? Who blocked Elrochs thread?

It was someone else's thread and he didn't like any of us and stopped us from writing on it. But this is Elroch's thread and we don't want it to be closed by the moderators because you're writing about religion! happy.png It's against their rules here.

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You are assuming that the moon is a rotating sunlight reflecting rock ball. When it is not. It is semi-translucent. Stars have been seen through it. So it certainly not a rotating rock ball as NASA would have you believe as well as them playing golf on the moon to mock the masses. 

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Religion. You mean by stating what the bible says concerning the earth? What if I posted excerpts  from the Babylonian Talmud or the Kabbalah, would that be alrightwink.png 

For that is where Newton got his theory of gravity.

Heliocentrism is a religion. Did you not know that? Certainly it can be discussed. 

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I think it is a rock ball. Pink Floyd are playing but you can't dance to that. However, did you know that any massive object bends light, due to the gravity that its mass creates?

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Did you not know that it is called the theory of gravity because it has never been proven? Even Newton stated the theory could never be proven. However, it is super simple to disprove it. 

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noodles2112 wrote:

Religion. You mean by stating what the bible says concerning the earth? What if I posted excerpts  from the Babylonian Talmud or the Kabbalah, would that be alright 

For that is where Newton got his theory of gravity.

Heliocentrism is a religion. Did you not know that? Certainly it can be discussed. 


Every fixed opinion is in its way a religion. But aren't you showing opinions here that say that heliocentrism is bad because it harms religion? So I don't really follow you because you seem to be arguing against religion and for religion at the same time. Best not to argue about religion at all because it could get this thread closed by the mods. Elroch could block you from this thread if he chose to, you know. I think if you stop talking about it now, he won't.

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I prefer the older Floyd. Obscured by Clouds, Meddle

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Most religions preach heliocentrism. Heliocentrism is the most popular religion on the face of the earth. 

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I am not talking religion except the religion of heliocentrism. wink.png

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Incidentally my late younger brother was something of an expert on the Babylonian Talmud and much other stuff. Very learned. Could have been an Oxford professor but went loopy through taking hallucinogenic drugs all his life. Not good for your health. happy.png For that matter, could have been a famous rock musician because he was offered a recording contract by the Beatles and the damn fool turned it down! happy.png

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Elroch and I go way back. We debated in Open Discussion years ago. They do not like me there at all. Received a few death threats back then and countless verbal abuse. Many do not like to be told how the magicians performs their tricks.

The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim. 

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Wow! The Beatles. Good grief! Guess he was too busy with Lucy in the sky with diamondswink.png