Does True Randomness Actually Exist?

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me?

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yes

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noodles2112 wrote:

that's the way I like it !

what way?

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playerafar wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

Q. Does True Randomness Actually Exist?

A. Only in a random way.

Since 'random' has multiple meanings then it refers back to itself in that way - since the assigned meaning could be 'randomly chosen'.

A

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the post #6907 way wink.png

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Elroch wrote:

Does True Randomness Actually Exist?

Every time you throw a pair of dice in a casino.

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long_quach wrote:
Elroch wrote:

Does True Randomness Actually Exist?

Every time you throw a pair of dice in a casino.

If you win - the money you get paid does Actually Exist. At that time.
If you lose - your money also does Actually Exist but its then somebody else's.
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meaning of the word 'true' in the forum title context.
Maybe there could be multiple definitions of it.

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BTW, I see elsewhere you say that Heisenburg's uncertainty principle does not falsify determinism. It does.

Determinism is the notion that there is no true randomness, while Heisenburg places a strictly positve lower bound on randomess. These two things are incompatible.

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Elroch wrote:

BTW, I see elsewhere you say that Heisenburg's uncertainty principle does not falsify determinism. It does.

Determinism is the notion that there is no true randomness, while Heisenburg places a strictly positve lower bound on randomess. These two things are incompatible.

It falsifies absolute total universal determinism.
But not all determinism.
People can still determine things.
I think processes can 'determine' events too.
The spin of the earth is going to 'determine' that the sun will appear over the horizon tomorrow.
Redshift has been determining for a long time that we'll see it here and we do.

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one does not need to attribute the sunset/sunrise to a spinning wobbling accelerating & decelerating flying globular rock - Lost in Space -----------------

there are other scientific "explanations" !