Does True Randomness Actually Exist?

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noodles2112

I have yet to see any curvature, either from 40,000 feet when traveling via commercial airlines or 120,000 plus feet via high altitude balloon video footage. 

The sun/moon traverse over the face of the earth just as they appear to do so. 

MEXIMARTINI
noodles2112 wrote:

Where does random derive?

 Heliocentric theory perhaps?

Is that not the end all be all of randomness? 

 

A.D.D. I swear.

MEXIMARTINI
MEXIMARTINI wrote:
noodles2112 wrote:

Where does random derive?

 Heliocentric theory perhaps?

Is that not the end all be all of randomness? 

 

A.D.D. I swear.

 

Or Cocaine I guess

noodles2112

if one can "comprehend" an infinite heliocentric universe ....then what is so difficult about comprehending an infinite plane? 

Elroch

noodles' brain is a good source of true randomness.

Elroch
noodles2112 wrote:

I have yet to see any curvature, either from 40,000 feet when traveling via commercial airlines or 120,000 plus feet via high altitude balloon video footage. 

The sun/moon traverse over the face of the earth just as they appear to do so. 

You lack the capability to quantitatively test your absurd beliefs. If you did have it, you would be able to prove them wrong, like competent people can.

How far do you think the Moon and Sun are from the flat surface above which you believe they circle in a comical manner?

In your fantasy world, is the phase of the Moon virtually identical from all points on the Earth's surface from which it can be seen? [I can tell you the answer for the real world later].

 

noodles2112

it is very simple.

if the earth were a sphere......EVEN twice the alleged size of 50,000 miles in circumference .......the HORIZON would remain FIXED................as one ascended the HORIZON WOULD/COULD NEVER RISE.

According to the globe model for curvature of 8" per mile squared any curvature would be observable and measurable. The only thing that's measured and observable is the LACK OF CURVATURE.........using globe apologists own freaking formula!!!!!!!!!!!

 

noodles2112

don't get upset with me Elroch.........I did not create the heliocentric tower of babel you adhere to. 

Elroch

Again, in a bigger font:

How far do you think the Moon and Sun are from the flat surface above which you believe they circle?

noodles2112

I personally think the distances vary. Certainly not 93 million miles nor 239,000 miles away. 

some have speculated around 3000 miles....others say much less than that. 

I DON'T KNOWwink.png

They are right there for all to see! 

Elroch

So your explanation for the appearance of the Sun and the Moon is that YOU HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE WHERE THEY ARE, BUT MAYBE SOME LOCATION EXPLAINS THEIR APPEARANCE?

How air-headed a position is that?

By contrast, the real explanation works. You don't have the capability to check this, but plenty of other people do.

noodles2112

Opt - Elroch and I have corresponded for many yearswink.png

MEXIMARTINI
noodles2112 wrote:

Opt - Elroch and I have corresponded for many years

 

noodles2112

You know we were all shown a toy globe in Kindergarten and told that is where we live.

Never......................... Ever.................................... To Question It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!wink.png

Elroch

I have indeed tried to reason with noodles for years, but he dodges all precise discussion to psychologically protect a daft set of beliefs.

See the above regarding the location of the Sun and the Moon as an example. He sees no problem with thinking he can work out what the Moon would look like while using no reasoning and not having any idea where it is.

noodles2112

It is a fact that heliocentric theory was NOT derived via observations. Copernicus and others were sun worshippers and freemasons. That ought to tell any thinking individual something about how the theory was derived, 

One does not observe stars light years away. They imagine them to be.

One does not observe a sun 93 million miles away and 100's of times larger than the moon. They imagine it to be.

One does not observe a rotating moon in perfect sync with a rotating earth so one side of the moon is only visible forevermore. They imagine it to be.

etc.   etc.  etc. 

One can reason however they choose. That does not negate these facts. 

1BadBluePenguine

NAH its just some HECKITTY groovy toony tom foovery crap..AHAA

noodles2112

Trippy stuff indeedwink.png 

Elroch
Optimissed wrote:


@Elroch
I could never work out why people, including yourself, thought they could maybe get tygxc to think straight. Though I don't think it was deliberate, on his part, unlike this.

There is a significant similarity.

Key aspects are entirely unsound reasoning, being unaffected by any discussion of the reasoning, and obsessive repetition of false mantras.

Elroch
noodles2112 wrote:

 

One does not observe a rotating moon in perfect sync with a rotating earth so one side of the moon is only visible forevermore.

This is true. Rather, due to the fact that the Moon's orbit is not circular, one observes a Moon that twists significantly from side to side as it rotates. The reason is simple - the rotation of the Moon about its axis is constant while the angular speed of the Moon around the Earth varies quite a lot depending on its varying distance.

They imagine it to be.

No. "They" do not. You do. "They" are better informed and understand what I have explained because it has been observed.

Here is an animated gif whose frames are simply photos of the Moon. The effect of the non-circular orbit is clear.

I will be amused to hear a flat Earther explanation of these direct observations!