Does True Randomness Actually Exist?

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...in a rotating frame of refererence.

so are u saying that the apparent motion of the observer is due to the motion of the observed ? 

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Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

...in a rotating frame of refererence.

so are u saying that the apparent motion of the observer is due to the motion of the observed ? 

No.
Glad to clear that up. happy.png

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...only cuz the apparent motion of our galaxy is due to the motion of our sun...they say.

(dark chocolate milky ways are sooo good w/ a latte !)

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It is insane to believe one is blasting through the universe at the speed of light as well as several other directions at incomprehensible speeds simultaneously. 

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thats why the big bang may end up being the biggest lie ever-ever told to sapiens...by sapiens !

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noodles2112 wrote:

It is insane to believe one is blasting through the universe at the speed of light as well as several other directions at incomprehensible speeds simultaneously. 

Yes, it is insane to believe that. To be honest, I have never heard of anyone expressing such a belief but you.

You have no excuse for the claim of moving in "several other directions", as I have patiently explained that any object has a single motion - it is the motion relative  to other objects that has multiple values (because each of them moves independently).

For example, if you walk down the aisle of a plane, you have:

  • one velocity relative to the plane (walking pace)
  • another velocity relative to the stewardess walking towards you (twice walking pace)
  • another velocity relative to the air (say airspeed of 500 mph)
  • another velocity relative to the ground (600 mph if you are in a jet stream moving at 100 mph relative to the ground in the direction you are moving)

Is it really too difficult for you to understand such multiple relative velocities?

You do believe in planes, don't you? (Or perhaps only biplanes with propellors?)

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That is the theory of heliocentrism. 

Indeed I understand the theory. Heck, Astronomy was one of my favorite undergrad courses. 

I never questioned the theory until 10 years ago. 

Since then I have found it to be seriously lacking in empirical evidence. 

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No, that is the elementary theory of reality. Most kids could cope with the relative velocities I described.

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Who could not agree with the planes, trains & automobiles analogy? 

For that is indeed .......................................Reality! 

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Elroch wrote:
noodles2112 wrote:

It is insane to believe one is blasting through the universe at the speed of light as well as several other directions at incomprehensible speeds simultaneously. 

Yes, it is insane to believe that. To be honest, I have never heard of anyone expressing such a belief but you.

You have no excuse for the claim of moving in "several other directions"

Clearl a chain of muual ineracions ha cease o have meaning afer here's more han one of hem. Wha people fail o undersand is ha if he're on a ship and walking along he deck, he ship is sailing from Glasgow o Edinburgh and he World is spinning round a sun ha's moving hrough a galax ha's precessing in relaion o oher galaxies, which are randoml wobbling or spinning or going about their day to day business in some other form, i would be nearl impossible o make a paper aeroplane and send i o noodles while doing all ha. he conceps jus don' add up.  Almos as bad as me wriing his bu missing ou all he s and s.  hat is, missing ou all he leers ha come beween s and u and hose tha are normall seen beween x and z. Cos m keboard's broke and i's ime for a new laptop. I saw a t! And anoher one!

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Opt - please lay off the moon shinewink.png

and speak english

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiEtfaz_bX7AhXPWMAKHezxCSgQtwJ6BAgLEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Do4nSmwSDssQ&usg=AOvVaw2Dx-ITic5iponUZA6kJ5EF

Bill Wymold & the professor.

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google and youtube etc. declared "all out war"..................... on FE several years ago. 

Need I prove that to you? 

 

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No they didn't. They are, however, interested in enabling people to find correct information rather than the blundering nonsense of anti-scientific eccentrics.

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Sure they did. CEO of YouTube went before gov't inquiry/board and was instructed to hinder/obstruct free speech. When it came to FE, they were told to annihilate it........ In no uncertain terms. 

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lol. Banning the village fool.

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noodles2112 wrote:

Who could not agree with the planes, trains & automobiles analogy? 

For that is indeed .......................................Reality! 

Yes, but you can skip the dots which seem to represent some sort of comatose state.

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Yeah, Randomness probably but maybe not. I dunno I guess. As the Wise say we shall see, after further deliberations and continued mulling despite forgone conclusions over coffee it'll shake out.

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comatose wink.png 

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as the universe gets older it moves toward less & less randomness...its that simple. dont bleeve what those booked-up beazeaus are telling u. its not proportional to entropy. its the opp.

u can see the way its ebb-flowing. but if u measure it in a sapiens lifetime (a hilarious time blip !) u cant see it. u gotta go back. like WAY back. start w/ like a 100MM yrs & go from there....see ?