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There are people on this thread, at the moment, who I can see choosing unhappiness over happiness. It's stopped being about the subject matter and it's become a place where people are trying to explore the psychological differences that led to differences in opinion on the subject matter. It is being done clumsily and some people I respected a lot, a while ago, I have noticed making personal attacks. And some are doing well by staying above it and apart from it.

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im so confusion rn

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"We choose to love people and most importantly of all, we choose to be happy."

of course we make conscious choices all day long, just not sure if falling in love is one of them.
maybe you want to expend on what type of loving you have in mind?

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Optimissed wrote:
MustangMate wrote:

People will not choose unhappiness. They but find themselves in that world simply because ...

completely incorrect

completely incorrect, or are you just being rude? its obvious that you two think in different contexts.

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"It's stopped being about the subject matter and it's become a place where people are trying to explore the psychological differences that led to differences in opinion on the subject matter."

feel free to be transparent.. which different opinions ? what psychological differences?

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if u go to the cost-u-less they have stuffed green olives. its basically a stateside costco.

besides, i find it ok to digress from the topic now & again. its thread-healthy.

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i have my little reason. only cuz, as u know me well enuf,  im eventually going s/w w/this. so hang on. lol !!

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Sillver1 wrote:

"It's stopped being about the subject matter and it's become a place where people are trying to explore the psychological differences that led to differences in opinion on the subject matter."

feel free to be transparent.. which different opinions ? what psychological differences?

Let's do it properly. I am INTJ-A (few find that surprising). What are your personality types?

If you haven't done this before (or if you have and you have forgotten) you won't regret going to 16personalities.com

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Sillver1 wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
MustangMate wrote:

People will not choose unhappiness. They but find themselves in that world simply because ...

completely incorrect

completely incorrect, or are you just being rude? its obvious that you two think in different contexts.

It's quite simple. We can choose to be happy. Ergo, by not doing so if we are unhappy, we're choosing unhappiness.

Now granted, a person can choose to walk on a tightrope over the Niagara Falls and choosing to do so doesn't mean we're all capable of it. Or you can put that in context and choose a more realistic analogy if you like, but it's still true. It isn't a big deal if two people think differently. The art is in finding ways to communicate in spite of that.

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Elroch wrote:
Sillver1 wrote:

"It's stopped being about the subject matter and it's become a place where people are trying to explore the psychological differences that led to differences in opinion on the subject matter."

feel free to be transparent.. which different opinions ? what psychological differences?

Let's do it properly. I am INTJ-A (few find that surprising). What are your personality types?

If you haven't done this before (or if you have and you have forgotten) you won't regret going to 16personalities.com

I got to forty percent on the test and had to stop to catch my breath. With any luck I might finish by tonight. Nothing like a mild interrogation to make you feel oh so alive.

There is still post #15 for posterity..

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Elroch wrote:
Sillver1 wrote:

"It's stopped being about the subject matter and it's become a place where people are trying to explore the psychological differences that led to differences in opinion on the subject matter."

feel free to be transparent.. which different opinions ? what psychological differences?

Let's do it properly. I am INTJ-A (few find that surprising). What are your personality types?

If you haven't done this before (or if you have and you have forgotten) you won't regret going to 16personalities.com

My personality type is awkward, so I don't believe in or agree with the supposed 16 personality types. It's simplistic tripe.

My mother liked tripe. I didn't, although I can see the attraction of tripe and vinegar or tripe and onions. S he also tried me on pigs' trotters, cows heel etc etc, all of which I rejected.

But I loved her and I didn't choose to.

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Sillver1 wrote:

king, i'll look her up on audible then. saw her tedx and some random clips a while back, she has extensive experience from her work at the ATF, and thats a tough crowed. but my impression was that she focus on lie detecting, and at the time i was more interested in facial expressions and how they show emotions, subconscious mind, etc
for example, most people can tell a real smile from a fake one, without any training. but if you ask them what gave out the fake smile? they think its something about the mouth, or cheeks, when in reality its mostly about the movement of the eyes. for her its probably come so natural she dont even have to think of it.

what do you read now?

Ah, now I see what that tedx thing is about. Interesting that your into facial expressions, I wonder if that's considered a niche unto itself. Body language for me..

The books I picked up when I kicked the fiction habit..

Influence

Winning Through Intimidation

The 48 Laws of Power

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Optimissed wrote:
Elroch wrote:
Sillver1 wrote:

"It's stopped being about the subject matter and it's become a place where people are trying to explore the psychological differences that led to differences in opinion on the subject matter."

feel free to be transparent.. which different opinions ? what psychological differences?

Let's do it properly. I am INTJ-A (few find that surprising). What are your personality types?

If you haven't done this before (or if you have and you have forgotten) you won't regret going to 16personalities.com

My personality type is awkward, so I don't believe in or agree with the supposed 16 personality types. It's simplistic tripe.

My mother liked tripe. I didn't, although I can see the attraction of tripe and vinegar or tripe and onions. S he also tried me on pigs' trotters, cows heel etc etc, all of which I rejected.

But I loved her and I didn't choose to.

I can't see how anyone could disagree there are personality factors of variation and that the test identifies some of them. I believe it was designed to quantify the major factors of variation that empirically exist. Certainly one could argue it is not the whole story: is that your position, or are you taking the more surprising one that the factors don't exist or that the test does not detect them?

I would observe that the splitting into 16 hexadecadrants is obviously an oversimplification. The strength of the factors clearly matters, not just which side of neutral 

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KingAxelson wrote:
Elroch wrote:
Sillver1 wrote:

"It's stopped being about the subject matter and it's become a place where people are trying to explore the psychological differences that led to differences in opinion on the subject matter."

feel free to be transparent.. which different opinions ? what psychological differences?

Let's do it properly. I am INTJ-A (few find that surprising). What are your personality types?

If you haven't done this before (or if you have and you have forgotten) you won't regret going to 16personalities.com

I got to forty percent on the test and had to stop to catch my breath. With any luck I might finish by tonight. Nothing like a mild interrogation to make you feel oh so alive.

There is still post #15 for posterity..

Cheers: I just did that test.

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Was Monet blind?

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feel free to be transparent.. which different opinions ? what psychological differences?

elroch: "Let's do it properly. I am INTJ-A (few find that surprising). What are your personality types?"

lol. if we 'do it properly' opti will say that we chose unhappiness. and im not too hot about it either. but because its somewhat ironic that you brought it up in this context i suggest you explore the ties between INTJ and narcissism for yourself. its quit fascinating if youre into this sort of things.

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"It isn't a big deal if two people think differently. The art is in finding ways to communicate in spite of that."

Amen to that tongue.png

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king, janine sound like fun to drink with : )
i guess you familiar with joe navaro? but my interest in facial expression had a different aspect at the time. wouldn't know where to start, but it was more on the arts side.. maybe one day. lol

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Sillver1 wrote:

feel free to be transparent.. which different opinions ? what psychological differences?

elroch: "Let's do it properly. I am INTJ-A (few find that surprising). What are your personality types?"

lol. if we 'do it properly' opti will say that we chose unhappiness. and im not too hot about it either. but because its somewhat ironic that you brought it up in this context i suggest you explore the ties between INTJ and narcissism for yourself. its quit fascinating if youre into this sort of things.

I once did a test to see if I was narcissistic as well, out of interest. Turns out I am not. But I would say I would have been more so when I was younger.

Sheldon Cooper might be an INTJ-A. But being a fictional character, this is not really an objective question!

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so u say that ur a INTJ-A ?...hmm. really ??...cuz they say that INTJ's have the highest concentration of PPD (paranoid personality disorder) like by far.