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Oct 13, 2024
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#81
I think that there are not enough animals on the earth. The population just keeps declining. I think that maybe scientists should invent a clone machine, so that the population doesn’t get too low!
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#82
fester_forever wrote:
Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:
Does it ever occur to you, in the utopia of anthills you see beneficial to the planet and the machines you envision, require not only mining for materials and manufacturing facilities but ingenuity of design and development and entrepreneurial skills not likely to be flourishing in cramped, prison like authoritarian civlizations?
Or do you just rail against humanity?
*tips fedora* and a funny reddit chungus to you too my epic sir xD
Recycling is done in modern automated plants. No need to steal more from the environment,when we've already taken too much.
Meditation is something.
It's better to be a human being than a human doing.
Oct 13, 2024
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#86
Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:
It's better to be a human being than a human doing.
Like a French OTFer once wrote: “OTFers are nothing more than what they make of themself.”
fester_forever wrote:
Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:
Why mining? Billions of cars will be recycled, plus everything we scavenge from our failed experience with civilization as we progress to something sustainable.
I see. So your future vision is totally built with recycled materials. What fuels the recycling? Slave labor?
You read too many comic books or perhaps have taken the movie 'Wall.E' too seriously.
The circular economy is an entirely reasonable end goal. An unglamourous concept that I like a lot is the advanced, AI-driven recycling robot, able to do anything a person can do in sorting recycled waste, and more.
Recycling will of course be increasingly automated and powered by renewable energy and any others (such as fusion power) that are compatible with a sustainable future.
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#88
it's a reasonable end goal if you assume humans are reasonable. we are clearly not
fester_forever wrote:
Developing a personal relationship with an AI is most definitely not beneficial nor therapeutic.
Better than a cockatoo, arguably?
If you argument is that AI relationships in lieu of real relationships is not good, that seems fair, but what about for people that are just alone? The ones in all those newer studies, that die 5-10 years earlier and are twice as likely to get dementia?
xch00F wrote:
it's a reasonable end goal if you assume humans are reasonable. we are clearly not
Some of us are. 
There will be 4 traffic lights (red, amber, green and white) that send signals to self driving cars to stop/go (according to a video I watched)
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#92
people can be reasonable on their own and in small groups but you are naive at best, delusional at worse if you can look at the current state of humanity and think that we can be reasonable on a large, possibly global scale
Sometimes we can. The ozone layer has been saved - a successful global agreement to solve a problem with the ozone layer we all share!
Progress is being made on climate change, but we are only at the end of the beginning, so to speak.
If you consider people living in the US as an example of regular or common.
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#96
fester_forever wrote:
DiogenesDue wrote:
fester_forever wrote:
Developing a personal relationship with an AI is most definitely not beneficial nor therapeutic.
Better than a cockatoo, arguably?
If you argument is that AI relationships in lieu of real relationships is not good, that seems fair, but what about for people that are just alone? The ones in all those newer studies, that die 5-10 years earlier and are twice as likely to get dementia?
For otherwise normal people, relationships (?) with inanimate objects regardless of their advanced technology, is a screwed up existence at best. Better to have an animal that's actually real and exists without batteries or inflates.
for all intents and purposes you are an inanimate object, your existence as an inhabitant in my brain ends whenever I log out and close the tab. and yet millions of us would consider the people we meet and talk to online to be friends, even if you never meet them or even simply hear their voice. how is AI functionally any different
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#98
Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:
If you consider people living in the US as an example of regular or common.
at a wide view it is a prime example with regards to developed countries, for better and for worse. like, capitalism is definitely the most common economic system and the united states is a perfect case study in that regard lol.
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#99
Elroch wrote:
There is a difference based on your knowledge of what is at the other end.
that's not a functional difference when the ai and the ostensibly real person interact with you in the same way
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