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zborg
zborg
Jun 12, 2018
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Excellent article by a physicist in today's NYTimes, June 12th --

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/opinion/earth-will-survive-we-may-not.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region

JustOneUSer
JustOneUSer
Jun 12, 2018
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#7402
Michael-

Okay that came out wrong. Of course you have the right to an opinion.

I also have the right to decide your opinion is not worth listening to. I will only do so if you fail to give me a reason to back up your opinion. (Not that you've really said your opinion on this topic in full).

I assume you came to this thread to share your opinions and have discussions on the validity of climate change?

Or did you come to vaguely state an opinion and then get all emotional about it?

If this were any other forum people asking for your reasons and evidence on climate change would be preposterous. However, this is a forum about climate change.

So would you like to discuss it or not?

I would also like to apologise to you for my terrible wording that stated you didn't have the right to an opinion. Of course you do, I hope no offence was caused, sorry.
JustOneUSer
JustOneUSer
Jun 12, 2018
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#7403
Also, Michael, there is no need to respect opinions on the scientific subjects IF THE PERSON HAS PROVIDED NO EVIDENCE FOR THEIR OPINIONS.

Science is knowledge and discovery through using experiments and evidence. A scientist (of either pro or Con global warming) would NOT respect your current opinion as

1. You haven't told us what it is
2. Said opinion might not be based on facts and science.

Please tell us

A. What your opinion is
B. Why you have it, and why we should consider and respect it.

If you have formed your opinion on scientific data, which I assume you have (although I cannot know until you actually say something instead of crying wolf) then I will happily respect and may consider your opinion as a factor as to weather I should change my own.

Everyone here is not here representing a side. We are here to gain knowledge and spread knowledge we do have. That's what science is.
JustOneUSer
JustOneUSer
Jun 12, 2018
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#7404
I mean Michael you literally cut down Elroch's post to make it look like he meant something he didn't.
Elroch
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Jun 12, 2018
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#7405

I think he made a genuine (but avoidable) mistake: it looks as if he thought I had written one line that I quoted from Fetchy.

Elroch
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Jun 13, 2018
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#7406
mooly9 wrote:
Elroch wrote:

A sad story in Africa [edit] which has been put down to the effect of climate change.

Giant African baobab trees die suddenly after thousands of years

Haha, this is typical climate change nonesense, they have zero evidence of the cause of the trees dying and so they try to blame GW. These trees are ancient and have happily lived though far greater climate variations than the last few years and yet they "suspect" climate change as the cause without even bothering to rule out other possible causes, that's idiotic. Man made climate change is one of the new religions of which you're well and truly indoctrinated in, if you opened your mind you would start to see the BS but if you lived long enough, you'd still deny it right into the middle of the next ice age.

People like you are wrong most of the time, because you guess wildly like you have in this post, without the slightest knowledge of the subject. Ignorance is indeed bliss. You are not even aware that the changes in global climate in the last century have been greater than any in the preceding lifetime of these trees.

By contrast, the scientists have put forward an informed hypothesis. It is clearly  no co-incidence that most of these trees - which are thousands of years old - are dying at the same time. Something is causing that and it is very likely to be a change caused by humans. One of the largest changes caused by humans is that in the climate (observed in the weather records of that specific region, which is all that is relevant to this subject).

I should also emphasise that the scientists did not claim to be certain about the cause. They put it forward as a good hypothesis that needed to be tested, and the article mentioned this. But then you probably didn't even read it. Why would you? It's not as if you want to improve your knowledge.

Elroch
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Jun 13, 2018
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No, you are incorrect that there is any precedent for the recent spike in global temperatures within the lifetime of those baobab trees (a couple of thousand years). Why would you believe such a thing?

The most significant sharp changes in the past are the cold year or two that follow the very largest volcanic events (due to dust in the upper atmosphere, mainly), but these are transient events that fade quickly. You can be sure that anthropogenic global warming will not do so, because that is what the science tells us. (The little ice age can be considered the largest fluctuation in global temperatures in the 2000 years before the 20th century, but it was far less pronounced than the recent warming).

Here is a (slightly out of date) graph of past temperatures reconstructed using several independent methods that all give the same general picture with a couple of significant divergences that must be due to uncertainty, but which all remain within a quite narrow range of temperatures.

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Note that although this graph makes my point unambiguously, more recent temperatures have spiked way above the end of that graph (which was just a few years ago). Here is the recent global average temperature record showing the part not on the graph above (the rise from around 0.5 degrees anomaly to almost 1.0 degrees in just a few years), which leaves no doubt about the fact that the recent temperature rise has no counterpart in the past 2000 years (and in much longer, actually). Uncertainties in the recent temperature data are also displayed, and can be seen to be essentially irrelevant.

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And why would you have the ridiculous idea that I think climate change is the only evil? This is based solely on your own wild imagination. There are many other "evils" that the human race needs to address as it has in the past and continues to with the problems of disease, air pollution, starvation, destruction of ecosystems, extinctions and so on. It just happens that several of these things are significantly associated with climate change.

Elroch
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Jun 14, 2018
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mooly9 wrote:

Lol, you don't seriously believe those graphs do you,

I do, because I have much better knowledge and understanding than you of how scientists work, and the specific facts about this data.

In particular, there have been no significant corrections to the modern data, which is where by far the strongest signal is seen. (The only significant correction to the older data was (1) well-justified and (2) has no significant effect on the overall pattern because it was a small correction to a minority of the data).

data has been proven to have been manipulated numerous times,

No (see above). Only an ignorant conspiracy wacko could suggest the signal observed across the entire world and accepted by the entire scientific community and all the world's governments (except one clown) is not real. The same sort of person who thinks no-one has ever set foot on the Moon and vaccination is not as effective as homeopathy.

if you open your eyes and look, you can find, for example, temperature records published a few decades ago, republished but "adjusted upwards"  for the exact SAME data yet the unimformed ( and gullible ) believe without question. Look around you for goodness sake, everybody's at it, the police manipulate crime figures, they simply threw away 1000's of reported crimes ( proven ) the NHS manipulate A&E waiting times by leaving ambulances outside, teachers manipulates SATS results, the government manipulates unemployment figures and... well you name it, they've lied about it, and yet you believe all this human climate change data is all honest and truthful despite everything else we're told is ful of lies, seriously!!!  😂😂😂😂 You were correct about one thing in your first comment though, ignorance is bliss 

So you have convinced yourself that all numbers are fake based on random unconnected examples from non-scientific sources. As a mathematician and scientist, I have to point out that not only are you wrong but your reasoning is crazy.

You have found a great way to stay utterly ignorant. I presume you ignore the health warnings on cigarette packets and think drinking and driving without a seat belt is an expression of freedom.

yanzhichen2007
yanzhichen2007
Jun 14, 2018
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#7409

E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nullThat's what I think of when people say Global Warming.

Elroch
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Jun 14, 2018
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#7410
mooly9 wrote:

First of all I'll answer your concluding flippant comment, I always wear a seatbelt, never drink and drive and would not dream of putting one of those poisonous sticks anywhere near my mouth, yuk. As for the rest, you just don't get it because your mind is set in stone and you refuse to accept the possibility that you are being conned. The difference between you and I is my view has wavered both sides of this humam climate change as I've looked at it with an open mind, the deeper I look, the more lies I see, if that makes me a " conspiracy wacko "  then that beats being one of the gullible sheep that follow and question nothing, there's definately plenty of wacko conspiracy theories out there but only a fool would believe they're all false. You could of course try opening your mind and look at both sides but that's not going to happen so I'll leave you in your happy world where everything is truthful and honest and noboby fiddles anything, as for me, I'm heading back to the real world 🙋

You can question anything you like - the theory of relativity, the microbial theory of infectious disease, the theory of Evolution or whatever. Heck, you can question the distributivity of multiplication over addition (a law of arithmetic) if you like. But where you come to conclusions that are contradicted by well-established, solid rational and scientific conclusions, your chances of ever being right are negligible. This is why you don't have a right for your poorly founded science denying thoughts to be treated as anything but mistakes.

JustOneUSer
JustOneUSer
Jun 14, 2018
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#7411
Mooly9

If you are saying all these graphs have been manipulated, can I ask you two things.

1. Can I have proof this is so?
2. Why is that so?
3. What graphs or evidence do you believe is correct?
4. Why do you believe so? Could those graphs not have been manipulated?
5. So you believe that if I went to the Arctic or Antarctic with a few thousand pounds worth of equipment (as others have done.) I would not get those same results?
wickiwacky
wickiwacky
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Jun 14, 2018
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#7412
mooly9 wrote:

You could of course try opening your mind and look at both sides but that's not going to happen so I'll leave you in your happy world where everything is truthful and honest and noboby fiddles anything, as for me, I'm heading back to the real world 🙋

 

Haven't you considered the possibility that if it was all fixed someone would break ranks and be a whistle-blower. That hasn't happened and all the data points to the same conclusion - the planet is warming and co2 pollution is the main contributor to that rise. 

But (as VicountVonJames said above) by all means show us the data you are working from in order to draw the conclusions you have.

You might consider yourself an independent thinker or someone who is open minded but your conclusions are the result of manipulation by people who stand to make vast sums of money. And resorting to conspiracy theories is evidence of a paranoid and deluded mind. 

 

Elroch
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Jun 14, 2018
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#7413

Some news of concern this week: apparently the last few decades have shifted so far from equilibrium that Antarctica is losing ice 3 times faster than it was before 2012 - well over 200 billion tonnes of ice melting each year.

wickiwacky
wickiwacky
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Jun 15, 2018
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#7414
mooly9 wrote:

wicki, people have come forward and questioned this, many have been vilified and lets face it, these people know  which side of the fence the funding's on and for most of them, if you have doubts, you're likely to keep your mouth shut at the risk of losing your job.

"And resorting to conspiracy theories is evidence of a paranoid and deluded mind."

I'm neither paranoid or deluded, I simply don't blindly trust, I question everything, and so should you, as I stated earlier, so many different organizations have lied and fiddled their figures, it's human nature unfortunately, ask yourself, why would this be any different.       

 

 

Nonsense. Any scientist who had data that supported a different conclusions would instantly have a well paid job with one of the big oil companies and would become famous (assuming their results were correct) as being someone who advanced human knowledge and changed society. 

You think someone is going to give that up chance if they have it? 

And by the way, I do question everything. I question why there are vested interests who want to carry on polluting our air with co2 and who have distorted the argument and succeeded in enlisting the gullible into making their arguments for them. 

Ask yourself why there was no furore over CFC's a few years back. Scientists realised that ozone was being depleted by certain chemicals and the end result was the Montreal Protocal, which mostly solved the problem. Recent measurements indicate there are new sources of the ozone depletion chemicals possibly coming from Chinese landfill and companies there that break up old fridges. 

But the point is there was little controversy because the chemicals in question were fairly easily replaced - there was little financial impact. Changing from fossil fuels will have a huge impact and will not be easy but it still has to be done. And part of the reason it is so difficult is because it is a problem that will not affect most of us that much. Future generations is another story. The climate is changing gradually - some changes are already apparent at 1 degree above pre-industrial levels. After 3 or 4 degrees rise there will be massive consequences. 

Rocky64
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Jun 15, 2018
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mooly9 wrote:

I simply don't blindly trust, I question everything 

You should have questioned the source of that graph before posting it. It came from the climate change denier, Roy Spencer. 

https://www.skepticalscience.com/Roy_Spencer_quote.htm

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/04/review-of-spencers-great-global-warming-blunder/

Rocky64
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Jun 15, 2018
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mooly9 wrote:
Rocky64 wrote:
mooly9 wrote:

I simply don't blindly trust, I question everything 

You should have questioned the source of that graph before posting it. It came from the climate change denier, Roy Spencer. 

https://www.skepticalscience.com/Roy_Spencer_quote.htm

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/04/review-of-spencers-great-global-warming-blunder/

Yeah, could have picked a different graph, but there's graphs and data  from a whole range of sources showing different results from supposedly the same data, each one showing their particlar slant, all these graphs should be the same with no bias and that was my point. Scale minmums and maximums are chosen to give the impression of massive temperature swings when in reality it's less than a °c which is tiny compared to long term variations.

If 99 people say "1+1=2" and one person says "1+1=3", you'd be right to conclude that "something" is wrong. Your mistake is to thus view both "1+1=2" and "1+1=3" with equal scepticism.

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Jun 15, 2018
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http://www.opr.ca.gov/facts/list-of-scientific-organizations.html

 

List of Worldwide Scientific Organizations

The following are scientific organizations that hold the position that Climate Change has been caused by human action:

  1. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academia Chilena de Ciencias, Chile
  2. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academia das Ciencias de Lisboa, Portugal
  3. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academia de Ciencias de la República Dominicana
  4. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academia de Ciencias Físicas, Matemáticas y Naturales de Venezuela
  5. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academia de Ciencias Medicas, Fisicas y Naturales de Guatemala
  6. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academia Mexicana de Ciencias,Mexico
  7. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academia Nacional de Ciencias de Bolivia
  8. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academia Nacional de Ciencias del Peru
  9. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
  10. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Académie des Sciences, France
  11. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academies of Arts, Humanities and Sciences of Canada
  12. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academy of Athens
  13. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academy of Science of Mozambique
  14. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academy of Science of South Africa
  15. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academy of Sciences for the Developing World (TWAS)
  16. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academy of Sciences Malaysia
  17. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academy of Sciences of Moldova
  18. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic
  19. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academy of Sciences of the Islamic Republic of Iran
  20. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academy of Scientific Research and Technology, Egypt
  21. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Academy of the Royal Society of New Zealand
  22. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy
  23. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Africa Centre for Climate and Earth Systems Science
  24. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">African Academy of Sciences
  25. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Albanian Academy of Sciences
  26. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Amazon Environmental Research Institute
  27. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Academy of Pediatrics
  28. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Anthropological Association
  29. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Association for the Advancement of Science
  30. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Association of State Climatologists (AASC)
  31. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
  32. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Astronomical Society
  33. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Chemical Society
  34. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American College of Preventive Medicine
  35. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Fisheries Society
  36. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Geophysical Union
  37. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Institute of Biological Sciences
  38. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Institute of Physics
  39. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Meteorological Society
  40. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Physical Society
  41. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Public Health Association
  42. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Quaternary Association
  43. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Society for Microbiology
  44. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Society of Agronomy
  45. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Society of Civil Engineers
  46. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Society of Plant Biologists
  47. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">American Statistical Association
  48. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
  49. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Australian Academy of Science
  50. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Australian Bureau of Meteorology
  51. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Australian Coral Reef Society
  52. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Australian Institute of Marine Science
  53. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Australian Institute of Physics
  54. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Australian Marine Sciences Association
  55. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Australian Medical Association
  56. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society  
  57. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Bangladesh Academy of Sciences
  58. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Botanical Society of America
  59. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Brazilian Academy of Sciences
  60. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">British Antarctic Survey
  61. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Bulgarian Academy of Sciences
  62. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">California Academy of Sciences
  63. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Cameroon Academy of Sciences
  64. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Canadian Association of Physicists
  65. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
  66. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Canadian Geophysical Union
  67. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
  68. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Canadian Society of Soil Science
  69. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Canadian Society of Zoologists
  70. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Caribbean Academy of Sciences views
  71. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Center for International Forestry Research
  72. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Chinese Academy of Sciences
  73. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Colombian Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences
  74. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) (Australia)
  75. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research
  76. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Croatian Academy of Arts and Sciences
  77. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Crop Science Society of America
  78. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Cuban Academy of Sciences
  79. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Delegation of the Finnish Academies of Science and Letters
  80. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Ecological Society of America
  81. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Ecological Society of Australia
  82. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Environmental Protection Agency
  83. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">European Academy of Sciences and Arts
  84. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">European Federation of Geologists
  85. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">European Geosciences Union
  86. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">European Physical Society
  87. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">European Science Foundation
  88. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Federation of American Scientists
  89. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">French Academy of Sciences
  90. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Geological Society of America
  91. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Geological Society of Australia
  92. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Geological Society of London
  93. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Georgian Academy of Sciences  
  94. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina  
  95. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
  96. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Indian National Science Academy
  97. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Indonesian Academy of Sciences  
  98. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management
  99. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Institute of Marine Engineering, Science and Technology
  100. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Institute of Professional Engineers New Zealand
  101. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Institution of Mechanical Engineers, UK
  102. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">InterAcademy Council
  103. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">International Alliance of Research Universities
  104. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">International Arctic Science Committee
  105. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">International Association for Great Lakes Research
  106. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">International Council for Science
  107. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences
  108. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">International Research Institute for Climate and Society
  109. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">International Union for Quaternary Research
  110. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
  111. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">International Union of Pure and Applied Physics
  112. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Islamic World Academy of Sciences
  113. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities
  114. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Kenya National Academy of Sciences
  115. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Korean Academy of Science and Technology
  116. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Kosovo Academy of Sciences and Arts
  117. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
  118. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Latin American Academy of Sciences
  119. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Latvian Academy of Sciences
  120. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Lithuanian Academy of Sciences
  121. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Madagascar National Academy of Arts, Letters, and Sciences
  122. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Mauritius Academy of Science and Technology
  123. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Montenegrin Academy of Sciences and Arts
  124. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences, Argentina
  125. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Academy of Sciences of Armenia
  126. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Academy of Sciences of the Kyrgyz Republic
  127. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Academy of Sciences, Sri Lanka
  128. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Academy of Sciences, United States of America
  129. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Aeronautics and Space Administration  
  130. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Association of Geoscience Teachers
  131. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Association of State Foresters
  132. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Center for Atmospheric Research  
  133. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Council of Engineers Australia
  134. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research, New Zealand
  135. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
  136. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Research Council
  137. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">National Science Foundation
  138. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Natural England
  139. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Natural Environment Research Council, UK
  140. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Natural Science Collections Alliance
  141. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Network of African Science Academies
  142. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">New York Academy of Sciences
  143. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Nicaraguan Academy of Sciences
  144. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Nigerian Academy of Sciences
  145. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Norwegian Academy of Sciences and Letters
  146. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Oklahoma Climatological Survey
  147. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Organization of Biological Field Stations
  148. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Pakistan Academy of Sciences
  149. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Palestine Academy for Science and Technology
  150. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Pew Center on Global Climate Change
  151. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Polish Academy of Sciences
  152. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Romanian Academy
  153. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium
  154. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Royal Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences of Spain
  155. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Royal Astronomical Society, UK
  156. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters
  157. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Royal Irish Academy
  158. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
  159. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences
  160. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Royal Netherlands Institute for Sea Research
  161. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Royal Scientific Society of Jordan
  162. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Royal Society of Canada
  163. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Royal Society of Chemistry, UK
  164. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Royal Society of the United Kingdom
  165. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
  166. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Russian Academy of Sciences
  167. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Science and Technology, Australia  
  168. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Science Council of Japan
  169. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research
  170. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Scientific Committee on Solar-Terrestrial Physics
  171. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Scripps Institution of Oceanography
  172. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts
  173. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Slovak Academy of Sciences
  174. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Slovenian Academy of Sciences and Arts
  175. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Society for Ecological Restoration International
  176. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
  177. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Society of American Foresters   
  178. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Society of Biology (UK)   
  179. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Society of Systematic Biologists
  180. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Soil Science Society of America
  181. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Sudan Academy of Sciences
  182. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Sudanese National Academy of Science
  183. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Tanzania Academy of Sciences
  184. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">The Wildlife Society (international)
  185. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Turkish Academy of Sciences
  186. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Uganda National Academy of Sciences
  187. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Union of German Academies of Sciences and Humanities
  188. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
  189. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
  190. http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/template2014/bullet-blue-disc.png";);background-color:transparent;padding:0px 0px 14px 18px;background-position:0px 3px;">Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
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USArmyParatrooper
USArmyParatrooper
Show your flair!
Jun 15, 2018
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#7418
mooly9 wrote:

All those organisations have based their results on the same data, and if that data has been "adjusted" then the results are flawed, my arguement's not the simply the science it's the manipulation of it, everyone doesn't have to be in on it, manipulate a few choice figures and the honest people reach the conclusion you want. You guys obviously think the powers that be are completely honest in this despite numerous episodes of lies and corruption in a whole range of areas everytime you turn the news on, and they're just few that come to light. I used to live in the same "world" as you guys but having dug deeper and deeper I've  come to realise just how corrupt things are but the only way you'll see it is if you do the same. You may think me paranoid, not at all but I know what I know. You can look for yourself or stay ignorant, it's up to you. 

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wickiwacky
wickiwacky
Closed: Inactive
Jun 15, 2018
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#7419

mooly9, 

To accuse anyone of falsifying or adjusting data you have to be conspiracy theorist. In reality scientists are interested in getting to the truth regardless of where that takes them. 

You quoted Roy Spencer, but his ideas have been shown to be wrong by peer review. He has had to revise his findings so many times it is embarrassing. There is a consensus and the vast majority of people support it.

If 98 doctors told you that you had to give up smoking or you will get cancer, and 2 said its ok to carry on smoking - who are you going to listen to? I reckon you would do the right thing and stop smoking. But you seem to think it's ok to be complacent with the climate because it will be someone else's problem. Maybe your children (if you have any) or grandchildren will have to pay the price of your inaction (although they won't because more sensible people are taking action to change things).

And all of this just to support the use of fossil fuels which will run out in less than 100 years anyway. 

Is it really worth putting human development and long term prosperity in jeopardy just so a few fat cat oil company bosses can get even richer? Especially when there is a viable alternative. 

 

Senior-Lazarus_Long
Senior-Lazarus_Long
Jun 15, 2018
0
#7420
mooly9 wrote:

All those organisations have based their results on the same data, and if that data has been "adjusted" then the results are flawed, my arguement's not the simply the science it's the manipulation of it, everyone doesn't have to be in on it, manipulate a few choice figures and the honest people reach the conclusion you want. You guys obviously think the powers that be are completely honest in this despite numerous episodes of lies and corruption in a whole range of areas everytime you turn the news on, and they're just few that come to light. I used to live in the same "world" as you guys but having dug deeper and deeper I've  come to realise just how corrupt things are but the only way you'll see it is if you do the same. You may think me paranoid, not at all but I know what I know. You can look for yourself or stay ignorant, it's up to you. 

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