God count: Zero, One, or Many?

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trysts

There certainly must have been some type of reference to a god in four years of life on this particular planet, Feufollet. I would guess your lack of memory for it to be the thing you don't recall? Is that possible?

trysts

I'm all for hilarious bickering!Laughing

Feufollet

Now you are the one claiming to be God, trysts. To CLAIM WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that you know something about another human being and what goes on in his mind and what his experiences are.

Feufollet

If you were to relate something to me when you were 4 y.o. I would not say to you - surely your memory fails you. I know more about you than you know about yourself. Wink

trysts

Not really. To say that you had an innate original idea of gods on this particular planet is to say you innately knew about sand when born in a desertWink

Feufollet

That is not an apt analogy.

You are actually revealing much about your psychological make-up right now.

Feufollet
trysts wrote:

I'm all for hilarious bickering!

Not all discussions about controversial ideas are bickering.

trysts

My psychological makeup right now is Revlon;) Do you think it impossible that you don't recall where you came up with the idea of a god?

Feufollet

"where you came up with the idea of a god"

The mere turnings of your sentences reveal that your experience is limited to that which is only yours.

It is like saying - "where did you come up with the idea of hate"?

Feufollet

Seems your entire "winning point" in this discussion sits on this one "certainty" of yours - that I must have been fed somehow with the idea of God.

trysts

I'm not following you, Feufollet? Are you saying that you don't think it's possible that you gained the idea of gods through the culture you were brought up in, where gods are as common in language and images as the sky and the grass? 

Sred
trysts wrote:

Atheism is a negation of the claims of gods existing. So first there was the claim of gods existing, then there was the negative reply;)

Yep, no atheist in their right mind would have come up with that strange idea on their own. Smile

Feufollet

ideas can be "fed" , trysts.

and koolaids can be drunk...especially as a child...for the taste Wink

but God - is not an idea nor is it koolaid.

trysts

Then we'll have problems discussing gods, since I think it's just an idea, Feufollet. Well, there you go!Laughing

Feufollet

That's quite all right, trysts.

It really doesn't matter whether you believe in God or not.

It is a personal experience.

But it is clear that good and evil exist....and those two poles serve as guidance enough for human existential guidance.

You don't need God for that.

And ironically, atheists seems better at identifying which pole is which.

trysts

Actually, no. It is not "clear" to me that "evil" exists, since the word "evil" carries with it religious connotations. I just use "good" and "bad" for evaluations. "Evil" is for people who believe in godsWink

Feufollet

rofl, okay, trysts. no problem.

the two poles of "good" and "bad" then.

trysts

Laughing

Sred
trysts wrote:

Actually, no. It is not "clear" to me that "evil" exists, since the word "evil" carries with it religious connotations. I just use "good" and "bad" for evaluations. "Evil" is for people who believe in gods

Not necessarily, for many people "acting evil" just means "acting (deliberately) immoral".

trysts
Sred wrote:
trysts wrote:

Actually, no. It is not "clear" to me that "evil" exists, since the word "evil" carries with it religious connotations. I just use "good" and "bad" for evaluations. "Evil" is for people who believe in gods

Not necessarily, for many people "acting evil" just means "acting (deliberately) immoral".

I feel religion dripping all over the word "evil". Must be my catholic upbringing;)

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