GUNS

Ok Llama well what exactly is your suggestion and why?

I think we all agree “arms” does not include ordinance so explosives are a no go. Fully automatic weaponry is also banned pretty much everywhere without special circumstances.

One trigger pull one bullet seems to be the standard.

That's all I ask...

I don't know enough about it to offer sensible solutions. I just know that the US has more guns and more gun deaths than other countries. That combined with my opinion that guns have nearly no practical value.

Why do you take the stats so seriously about gun deaths…while totally ignoring guns used in self defense stats?

At LEAST 100,000 and possibly much much more.

https://www.nap.edu/read/10881/chapter/7

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If that is true and more than 100,000 people use guns in self defense legally why in the world would you say they have no practical value?

I honestly did mean "nearly" no practical value. Of course they have some practical value

    llama,..... your talking to a boy using a TRUMP avatar......nuff said.   He's insulted how many people in this thread?  Nobody knows what the're talking about, but HE knows about everything....even over 200 yrs ago when the Constitution was written. Lets not forget about all the experience he's had with tyranical governments too. He's a professional troll who's only purpose here is to sow the flames of chaos, arguments, & dis-order. He claims he hasn't been vaccinated, but....."associates with being" vaccinated, so you were correct in post 1003.....there's some mental issues going on there. 

Why guns….why not…..something else?

Like battleaxes and bows, bills and blades, spears and swords, and willow sticks and whittling knives?

No. Like matchlocks and flintlocks, about the only firearms available in 1789 when the Bill of Rights was drafted.

 

Also cannons. Dont forget that.

And shortly after things like Gatling guns were also available. A fully auto machine gun. Perfectly legal back then.

It’s almost as if by define arms by what was available back then(at first) is like assuming free speech only applied to how far you could throw your voice.

But that would be ridiculous.

These men were amongst the most educated ppl on earth back then. To assume they were so stupid as not to specify muskets, or that they were ignorant of technological change is really short sighted.

Bro, they lived 250 years ago. Transportation was by horse. No indoor plumbing. No medicine that didn't involve opium or leeches. Food was whatever you grew out of the ground. No one could have imagined how technology would explosively grow.

Let’s be clear: if you are, or pretend to be, concerned about gun violence than you should be concerned about HANDGUNS. You know…one trigger pull one bullet.

The latest year for complete data we have a total of 11,004 deaths from handguns

We have 374 for rifles of ALL types

By comparison knives kill 1,589

Source fbi.gov

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-4.xls

So around 30 times the amount if ppl are killed by handguns than ALL rifles combined.

So if you are concerned about the scary AR15 you are thinking emotionally and not with facts abs data.

Sure, let's focus on restricting handguns then, makes sense.

They had canons Llama and revolvers were infected in their lifetimes with France having a 20 shit very early.

You know…revolver…one trigger pull one shot. Just like an AR15.

Of course only the revolver is FAR more powerful.

Handguns are also cheaper most of the time, aren't they?

Handguns are already restricted in many places.

Like Chicago and Detroit and the Bronx and Philadelphia and Newark…pretty much the most violent places in the country.

Oddly enough places like Plano Texas do not restrict them abs their gun violence level is akin to Belgium.

Go figure.

No rifles are cheaper.

Handguns are used because they’re easily concealed

You could conceal a rifle by hanging it under your shirt and having the barrel go down your pants leg