Happy Pride Month!!

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ThaHomieMan
The funny thing to me about pride is how everything is all “love” and “acceptance” of everyone.

:..until it’s someone that they don’t like or doesn’t support their beliefs, then they can hate away.
UnclePeet
Diversity
IMKeto

Now sadly that is true.  Those that claim love and tolerance do so only when you agree with them.  But dont agree, and out the window goes the love and tolerance, and in flies, emotional reacting, and feelings.  Just today this happened.  A guy i know from school sent me a friend request on another site.  So he starts in on my faith posts. The typical atheist 101 stuff.  I said if you want to continue this discussion this do this privately. When he was all out there where everyone could see his posts he was having a great time "refuting" the existence of God.  But when i wouldn't react, and asked to take it privately?  Not a word from him.

Dabuten
IMBacon wrote:

In a nutshell.  Your belief system is different from mine.  Simple as that.  But it should in no way interfere with treating each other decently. 

That's exactly what I was trying to say. Be how and what you want, but never tell me to be like you. And never feel afraid if some other people think different from you. Simple? Not at all, unfortunately.

Dabuten

And about the Pride thing, in very simple terms. If you were insulted, aparted, bullied, rejected and hitted by others just for being a bit different, during years and years, maybe you would understand why the logical reaction at the end, after dealing with depression and anger for a long time and visiting dark and ugly places inside you, is feeling pride of how you're and who you're, no matter others. Just a human thing, you can try to destroy someone, but not an easy thing, maybe you're just making her/him stronger.

EscherehcsE

I'm straight, but I have pride, too. What's up wit dat?

dfgh123

I saw a pride flag on an embassy!, I support pride flags on American embassies.

IMKeto

I take pride in my bacon consumption.  The rainbow was Gods covenant with man. 

llama47
IMBacon wrote:
“Pride should be reserved for something you achieve or obtain on your own, not something that happens by accident of birth. Being Irish isn't a skill... it's a genetic accident. You wouldn't say I'm proud to be 5'11"; I'm proud to have a pre-disposition for colon cancer.”
― George Carlin

I agree with this, but as silly as it might sound, "pride" is not what pride month is about. I tend to think of it in terms of the Asch conformity experiments (by having just one person answer correctly the conformity was alleviated).

By injecting LGBT-type awareness into society, you're allowing people to be themselves.

llama47
ThaHomieMan wrote:
The funny thing to me about pride is how everything is all “love” and “acceptance” of everyone.

:..until it’s someone that they don’t like or doesn’t support their beliefs, then they can hate away.

Careful anytime you use the word "they." People do it all the time when complaining about groups of people (feminists, the government, people who eat fast food, any group).

You can create contradictions in any group. Simply show how one person's ideas may disagree with another's. However this is a poor argument because you're pretending the contradictory ideas come from the same person, when in reality groups aren't a monolith (also you're likely making a caricature out of real beliefs).

Dabuten

The quote of George Carlin is quite simple, tricky and false. Sounds good if you don't think about it (what most of people do), but take two seconds and... blufff, it dissapears like smoke in the air.

You feel pride of things that were difficult for you to obtain or keep. That could be some kind of achievement you put lot of effort to got, or (and this is the sad thing), simply something you are or think but society around you makes very complicated to maintain.

Simple, but the good Mr. Carlin prefers tricky and empty things, it seems.

llama47
UnclePeet wrote:
You could kind of view pride month, with its parades and constant in your face attention, as pushing your believes on someone else

Certainly in schools they push this belief into our kids

There are a lot of immature people on both sides of it... but in the end teaching people to love themselves is a great moral good. Before you can love others, before you can love God (if you're a religious person) you have to learn how to love yourself. You have to see yourself as having value.

When society, and its bigots and ignorant folk, tell you that you have no value, or that you're degenerate, that is a great evil, and I mean that in a very real moral sense (even if it has utility in the evolutionary biological sense of forming and maintaining groups).

pineconehenry
Kick a little dust and the proud boys circle the wagons. It never gets old. I called you bigoted because your behavior reflects it, regardless of justification through Iron-age Arabic mysticism or whatever. If you don’t agree, go somewhere else and start your own forum where you and these other proud boy clowns can discuss your love of brisket or shotguns or big monster truck tires until the feds identify you as a participant in the failed trump insurrection and then well, your on your own buddy boy. I hope this offends you and you and you. Just let the pride people have their pride without your opinions, nobody cares what most of us have said here, it’s not about us.
UnclePeet
Nobody is telling anyone they have no value it’s crap man plain English

This ain’t 1950

Being gay in this day and age brings a person nothing but PRIVILEGE

You know it’s true

If these people feel like society is somehow against them they need to turn off the TV because the media is doing a hell of a job on their psyche
pineconehenry
Me thinkest thou dendrites do not reacheth one to the other
llama47
UnclePeet wrote:
Nobody is telling anyone they have no value it’s crap man plain English

That wasn't my point to you. My point to your post was that allowing people to love themselves for who they are is a fundamental moral good.

Meanwhile people like you spread hate via posts like this:

UnclePeet wrote:
the fascist alphabet soup group
UnclePeet
That’s not HATE son….calling someone a fascist isn’t hate

Here in NYC this group is abusive as hell and enforces their beliefs on others, partially because they’ve been taught by ppl like you who say they’re under siege
UnclePeet
For gods sake these ppl will seek to dox you and harm your personal life if you tell them honestly that you aren’t attracted to a transgender girl they will say you are transphobic

That’s not hate it’s reality

pineconehenry
Lol
pineconehenry
Your irony is terminally rooted bro