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http://brew-engine.com/ingredients/hops/cascade.html

I would never have thought it was so simple  😕

 

 

ATV-STEVE

been brewing for 30 years

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@ atv-steve, Cool! Have you been using hops like that,  Cascade, Centennial, Mosaic...  from the US ? Especially  Oregon State ?

power_9_the_people

Cascade, Centennial,  Chinook, Columbus

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I've just learned  my favorite  contains all of them 4. Crazy! But before I brew anything  myself, I want to study at Oregon  State, maybe

https://foodsci.oregonstate.edu/foodsci/fermentation-science-faculty-0

 

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I know, the Australian  cascade is more fruity, right?

https://www.craftbrewingbusiness.com/featured/world-beer-craft-top-10-hops-australia/

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Same soil as potatoes,  well

https://craftbeerclub.com/blog/post/which-country-produces-the-most-hops-204

 

1g1yy
power_9_the_people wrote:

 

@ atv-steve, Cool! Have you been using hops like that,  Cascade, Centennial, Mosaic...  from the US ? Especially  Oregon State ?

I've used about every one sold here at one time or another.  You can't shake a dead cat without hitting a place that sells Cascade.  My brother even grows it.  I used to grow it at my previous house, but at the new place I've not planted any.  

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Hope these  researches is not financially linked to the beer industry 

https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/brain-disease-alzheimers-primary-progressive-aphasia/134084/

EDIT: https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/could-beer-hops-give-insight-into-treating-alzheimers/147213/

 

 

power_9_the_people
1g1yy wrote:
power_9_the_people wrote:

 

@ atv-steve, Cool! Have you been using hops like that,  Cascade, Centennial, Mosaic...  from the US ? Especially  Oregon State ?

I've used about every one sold here at one time or another.  You can't shake a dead cat without hitting a place that sells Cascade.  My brother even grows it.  I used to grow it at my previous house, but at the new place I've not planted any.  

Yeah, Mosaic is a more recently introduced.  It's  a kind of agriculture  where  there's  a lot of new varieties,  from what I ' learning

power_9_the_people

https://beerandbrewing.com/if-you-don-t-like-ipas-there-s-a-reason-why-here-s-10/

 

1g1yy
power_9_the_people wrote:

Cascade, Centennial,  Chinook, Columbus

 

At one time Pennsylvania was the main state for growing hops but there are airborne diseases here now which make it very difficult to keep your plants alive. Or if they survive they are so stunted there's really no flower production. Black root and downy mildew are pretty common. They can be sprayed but of course it's expensive and not everybody wants chemicals all over their hops. Then too, when you build a proper trellis like we did, the plants are growing 18 ft tall so spraying them up that high is not fun.

Most of the online Brewing suppliers sell rhizomes so you can easily grow your own. They really are quite Hardy if you are in an area that doesn't have airborne diseases. And they are a perennial, although they require root maintenance which is best done manually with a shovel, if you intend to really maximize the production.

They are actually a beautiful vine plant if you like the trailing Vine look on a house during the growing season.

power_9_the_people
1g1yy wrote:
power_9_the_people wrote:

Cascade, Centennial,  Chinook, Columbus

 

At one time Pennsylvania was the main state for growing hops but there are airborne diseases here now which make it very difficult to keep your plants alive. Or if they survive they are so stunted there's really no flower production. Black root and downy mildew are pretty common. They can be sprayed but of course it's expensive and not everybody wants chemicals all over their hops. Then too, when you build a proper trellis like we did, the plants are growing 18 ft tall so spraying them up that high is not fun.

Most of the online Brewing suppliers sell rhizomes so you can easily grow your own. They really are quite Hardy if you are in an area that doesn't have airborne diseases. And they are a perennial, although they require root maintenance which is best done manually with a shovel, if you intend to really maximize the production.

They are actually a beautiful vine plant if you like the trailing Vine look on a house during the growing season.

 

Very informative. I didn't even know about Pennsylvania and that it was doing this "incredible vertical structures"

 

power_9_the_people

https://hoohhops.com/organic-hops-make-quality-beer-and-benefit-the-environment-ill-drink-to-that/#:~:text=Stronger%20Biodive

 

1g1yy

That organic growing stuff isn't going to happen much in pennsylvania. Penn State has quite an agricultural research program and they do a lot with hop Growers here, but I don't know of a single one that's attempting it organically. I've even been to several of the open houses at The Farms, admittedly some years back. It's an uphill battle to get the plants healthy. A typical yield should be about 2 lb per plant but that requires a very healthy plant with a correct height, good soil and no disease. It takes about 3 years to get the root structure situated so it's strong enough. And all of that requires considerable manual work with a shovel for each plant. It's the root structure you do the maintenance on.

There are some really cool videos of the guys hanging the twine that the bines grow on. Vtt picked up vines in my previous post but they are really called bines.

For optimal growth, you actually train the plant when it is very young. You start by cutting off all but one of the starts and then you wrap it around the string so it's counterclockwise as viewed from the ground in the northern hemisphere. That's because you actually want the plant to follow the Sun during the day. And they do grow that fast.

If I can find the video I'm thinking of I'll post it.

1g1yy

That didn't take long.

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Good! Hops production we had here , I'm learning, has moved to the  Yakima valley

https://m.realagriculture.com/2020/06/propagating-a-successful-hops-industry-in-canada/

 

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https://beercreation.com/why-make-your-own-beer-essential-reasons-for-homebrewing/

A guy I know says he's brewing his own beer back in the day, before kits. 

https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/brew-beer-at-home/

"Easier than you think"

Here using a " hop spider"

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the cosmic punch in beer

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-research-seeks-to-tap-into-craft-brewing-potential-of-maritime-wild-2/

 

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