God didn't create earth
If the universe requires a creator then the creator should require a creator = religion is made-up
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MDL4 wrote:
God didn't create earth
Perhaps god is the first cause.Thus god create earth through a series of causality(including newborn galaxy).
Aug 25, 2015
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#184
The thread is very likely a waste of time because it is rare for anyone to change their stance on this issue.
However, at times people do change their minds and begin believing there is a God, and there are even instances in which someone believed in God but decided it's rubbish, even those who were very heavily involved in religion.
There is a former nun name Karen Armstrong, she was a nun for a long time, but eventually through her heavy religious history studies it began to appear to her that religions are made up and that there is unlikely to be a God. She wrote a big detailed book titled A History of God to show how strong indication is it's made up stuff by man.
A preacher for 15 years was adamant about there being a God and Jesus the way to salvation, but as he learned more and more he came to the realisation there is not a God. His name is Dan Barker and he wrote a book titled Godless. Today he is one of the leading atheists in the United States.
The authors of those two books were extremely studious but instead of it strengthening their beliefs it weakened them.
Aug 25, 2015
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#185
Jesus is not about religion, he castigated and condemned religion. Religion is made -up. Yes! Jesus is Lord! The evidence concerning Jesus is authentic and no-one mde it up. Deal with Jesus and not religion!
For what its worth.jesus had a mother and father.he was conceived and born the natural way.he grows up and starts telling anyone who would listen hes the son of god.(egotism/narcissism/maybe schizophrenic).his fellow jews call him nuts then with the help of the romans have him executed.many people since have claimed to be the son of god but unlike jesus they have all been laughed at and called crazy.double standards i think.but 2thousand years later,those unfortunate enough to have been brainwashed into taking him as an imaginary friend are still convinced hes the son of god.its a truly bizarre world indeed.and as for who created god?i think thats obvious.human beings created god!
Whether or not there is a god/creator is probably beyond human ability to determine. Perhaps our entire universe is part of an experiment or is just a program running on an alien computer? But religion as is practiced by most people is definitely a human construct. Psychopathic dark ages lunatics that think their god told them to rape, torture and decapitate all infidels are the epitomy of why religion can be unhealthy. For those that use it as an emotional crutch so they don't have to fear death, well they're mostly harmless.
Nothing exists that proves that there was a creator! Images and text are all there is.Passed down as stories through the years,used to combine tribes for the reason of strength and the creation of common goals(strength in numbers).God is a language,a civilised language,,no magic, no creator other than those that gathered the stories up and created a faith.
I don't know about the creator thing but observe the powers of the Duck
From post 312 onward ...eventually these last posts will be cast in gold and sent into space to save
undiscovered civilizations
having faith is Gods value system like ppl value greed lust but scripture says seek and you will find ; draw close to God He will draw close to you ;you need faith He will answer in time
If there is no creator, then how do you suppose everything from an atom to the universe was created?
Aug 25, 2015
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#193
13Reflections wrote:
whether or not the universe was created by an "intelligence" or whether it is itself "intelligent". intelligence was formed with the universe. think about that... the universe is the creator of intelligence
can anyone calculate the chances of an intelligence forming by mere random events over any course of time?
Wow, my calculator broke trying to figure that out!
I refuse to be drawn into any speculative discussions such as this one which only lead to ad homonim attacks and wild theories.
“If the universe requires a creator then the creator should require a creator.”
This is a conditional argument.
“Conditionals are FALSE only when the first condition (if) is true and the second condition (then) is false. All other cases are TRUE.”
HAVE YOU ANY PROOF THAT THE CREATOR REQUIRES A CREATOR OR IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE CREATOR WAS JUST THE FIRST CAUSE AND NEEDS NO CREATOR?
As a mere human I feel I cannot prove one way or the other whether or not your conditional then is true or false. Therefore I am not sure there is a creator but it seems rather likely to me.
tkbunny wrote:
I'm not convinced by your tiny-fonted statement. :P
Oooh large fonts are so convincing
how can there be so many retards in a chess site ,,,,... amazing
What about a universe with an end...but no beginning?
Scientist have found newborn galaxy.I thought universe have a beginning and an end,when the last star off.