yes but the things you say are not scientific or prooven or logical or anything.....i think you are just saying because you are taught to be saying.....why not think out of the box.....are you afraid that your society which you live in will punish you...we have to base our living on truth as clever human beings......if we fear to talk who will do it instead of us.....give me good reasonable suggestions and lets talk it over please...
If the universe requires a creator then the creator should require a creator = religion is made-up
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quantumlee wrote:
I am not a troll, I am just asking a very serious question which involves our whole world and I intend to gather suggestions in solving out the problem. And the reason I choose this site is that there are a lot of serious people around who could come up with ideas and suggestions.Because I consider any kind of chess player has the ability to talk on serious topics involving life. But as far as I see is that you kids are the only ones that are trolling this topic. I think that your ages are very small to be serious. Nevermind.
Ok, let's solve this in one post shall we!
Yes, you are.
On a chess site??
Intend to or not, it won't happen today or the next. Also, calling it a "problem" causes one side of the argument to think you are a bigot. Show respect.
On a chess site? And clearly you haven't been here long enough
On chess
Chess player doesn't equal ability to talk about life
This is a chess site and many forums were made on this subject and will continue after this thread has been locked and deleted.
You are naive to believe that this thread would be a success.
Good! Now ask the mods to delete this thread to prove your point of giving up!
Aug 22, 2015
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and Morphysrevenges by saying without a creator this topic cannot be done brings you back to the first argument that god too requires a creator....or how did god pop out :)
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Of course, as your reply proves, this is not true of all members of a chess site.
Ok, let's solve this in one post shall we!
Yes, you are.
On a chess site??
Yes, a chess site is a perfect site for this sort of question. Chess players, one would think, have the ability to think with an open mind, be highly logical, and be able to see new, innovative ideas before there time.Of course, as your reply proves, this is not true of all members of a chess site.
Monkey was born from an egg on a mountain top
Not only did Jahweh come first, but he made everything in existence with his own energy. Hence, all is Jah's energy. Hence all is equal to one another and everything.
Hence, we are all made from God's energy. Ergo, we are all God.
Have you read the Bible in its entirety? Have you studied it as you would any other subject? If you have than most if not all of your questions would be already answered. If so, the real problem is you do not like the answers you received? So, without realizing it or intentionally you have done what all people do who feel slighted by authority- They take it to the court of public opion via the media.
If you have not read the Bible then you have no personal authority to speak on it. Do step one, then we can discuss step two.
In the Worlds before Monkey, Primal chaos reigned.
But the Phoenix can fly only when its feathers are grown. The four worlds formed again and yet again, as endless aeons wheeled and passed. Time and the moistures of the Earth, and the powers of the Sun and the Moon all worked upon a certain rock and it magically became fertile. Elemantal forces caused the egg to hatch, from it then came a stone Monkey.
The nature of Monkey was irrepressible!
The bible, of course, is not the place to find the answers.
See the Council of Nicea of 325 ad to see how much of the bible was changed.
Then ask yourself why the bible says it is a version (King James VERSION)
The bible is what all the phoney baloney organized religions use to prop themselves up (at least in Christianity).
Aug 22, 2015
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quantumlee...you have no hope...many may extoll your achievements at your funeral accompanied with fanciful poetry...they may say things like no more suffering, or reunited with someone, or looking down on us, or now doing your favourite things, or catching up with old friends...or you may say there is nothing after death...how great will be your utter shock after death....there will be no comfort only eternal conscious torment...this is founded on better evidence than your denial of there being a creator! Check out Jesus for yourself!
LOL, There is no eternal torment in any way shape or form. That is more foolishness devised by the wealthy elite to control the idiot masses.
the creator and the creation are one!
I see it is too late for common sense to reach you guys
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Aug 22, 2015
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I have an opinion about bible....many times I come across many verses....I have an opinion about quaran too I have even read 1 third of the quaran thouroughly......the problem is one doesnt need to read these books.....when you hear them you understand that nothing true is written there....on the other hand you dont need to read any of these holy books except from having an idea about them in order to be a science man....i doubt for example that had Einstein read his holy book in order to understand quantum theory.....to understand science and scientific facts you dont require any of those holy bokks except from general knowledge......so dont try to change the subject by saying "you havent read the bible thouroughly and that then you can't talk these matters"
to understand the universe and all phyiscs we dont require holly books......so dont ever say it again........
you are going nowhere fast.
Your logic is like this "Chess.com exist by itself no one created this site" , imagine how programmers/developers, feel if they will hear you saying this....and in Abrahamic Faith (Judaism,Christianity and Islam) GOD is the Alpha and The Omega, therefore time is just an illusion in short it doesn't exist... so GOD is not created by anyone, we can't reach the deep of GODs mind...hope you're enlighten...
The truth is atheist trying to believe that there's no GOD cuz, they wan't to do all things without restriction. =)
Aug 22, 2015
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as you say its not reality.......if it was reality you wouldnt have to believe it because it would be an obvious fact......you wouldnt believe in a tree you would know already that it is a tree.......you dont say i believe in a stone you say this is a stone.....you know that it exists........but still you talk about your intelligence in order to proove god as if it was a fact.....why bother yourself.......though you are intelligent you are talking the words taught to you by less intelligent people......parrots talk what they hear.....they cant talk on their own words.....all you read in the bible and holy books are man made.....make-up.....if you are a talent you yourself can make up many things.......even the writer of harry potter has become a billionaire because she created a very good world of magic.....i think if she lived in the same days as jesus christ i bet she would do better and out class him....
It is always fun to see this argument repeated ad nauseum for thousands of years.
And yet, there is still a Creator who exists without being created. WTF!??!
For those of you unable to understand this, fear not; it will not affect your chess game more than an iota.
So the question is not really who created whom and when, the real question is and has always been, "Why would you be part of a religious group when you can access the Creator personally, without any religion?"
Religions, you see, were created to control mankind. And they have been doing a fine job of it too, thanks to the cowardice and gullibility of the masses.
A personal relationship with the Creator, on the other hand is the purpose of this whole existence.
Some people find this through their religion, but I find the religions to be hopelessly traditional and repetitive and completely hypocritical in terms of their hierarchy following their own rules.
So you are right, quantumlee, in re religions are man made.